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Night currency question
"nobody" wrote in message news:0fz7j.21804$Bg7.19859@trndny07... My point is that Steven is making incomplete and ambiguous statements and passing them off as fact. Steven did nothing at all like that. |
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"Denny" wrote in message ... Same thing to carry passengers... You go out there unqualified to carry passengers and do a few TOL... Suddenly you are qualified to carry passengers - without having carried a passenger... Ahh, you said nothing about passengers in your first message. That changes things. |
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Night currency question
On Dec 11, 12:44 am, "Stan Prevost" wrote:
One of the issues with night flight is being able to maneuver on the surface of an airport without getting lost and making runway incursions. It can be a daunting task at a large field. I have always supposed that the FAA wanted pilots to have some recency of experience in such night maneuvering, and I have thus interpreted the requirement for full-stop landings to exclude stop-and-go. No, stop-and-goes are sufficient. The CFRs and AIM Pilot/Controller Glossary do not provide any technical definition for "full stop". Therefore, the term just has its ordinary English meaning, which does not include a requirement to exit the runway or taxi around the airport. (The P/CG does use the term "complete stop"--as part of the definition of "stop and go".) My guess is that the FAA doesn't want to promote nighttime touch and goes by a pilot who lacks recent night experience, so they don't allow touch and goes to count for night currency. Stop and goes are less rushed--they let the pilot verify takeoff configuration and assess remaining runway length without being in motion in the dark at the same time. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Denny" wrote in message news:4b5fd005-dbcd-468f-b32d- ... Same thing to carry passengers... You go out there unqualified to carry passengers and do a few TOL... Suddenly you are qualified to carry passengers - without having carried a passenger... Ahh, you said nothing about passengers in your first message. That changes things. Seeing as how the regulation for night currency only applies to the carrying of passengers why should he have needed to mention it? |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message ... Seeing as how the regulation for night currency only applies to the carrying of passengers why should he have needed to mention it? His question was about qualifying for night ops, not about night currency. |
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On Dec 10, 9:44 pm, "Stan Prevost" wrote:
One of the issues with night flight is being able to maneuver on the surface of an airport without getting lost and making runway incursions. But how do they make it to the runway in the first place? -Robert |
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On Dec 10, 7:11 pm, john wrote:
What is the reasoning behind the full stop landing? thanks, John The definition of "landing" is a bit vague, but full stop is pretty easy to define. I suspect that the FAA doesn't want people to count time when they bang the wheels on the ground and then continue flying. I've been known to log 3 of those types of "landings" in a single pass. -Robert, CFII |
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On Dec 11, 9:18 am, wrote:
My guess is that the FAA doesn't want to promote nighttime touch and goes by a pilot who lacks recent night experience, so they don't allow touch and goes to count for night currency. I'm not sure if that is true or not but I always restrict my students to full stop landings when I endorse them for solo. Touch-n-goes can be very busy and the chances of someone going off the side of the runway while reaching for the flaps (at least with low time pilots) is high in my experience. I've flown with rated pilot with fresh BFRs that have a hard time with tngs. -Robert, CFII |
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john wrote:
What is the reasoning behind the full stop landing? There may be little justification for that requirement and this may be a good time to ask the FAA to either provide better justification or change to the rule because it appears the "FAA Wants Help Eliminating Useless Rules": http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._196728-1.html |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Why wouldn't you? You're not legal to carry anyone until you complete your three T&Ls.... I suppose you could pay an instructor but why bother? The airplane doesn't know it's dark. Because night ops qualification requires 3 hours of night flight training and flight training requires a flight instructor. I got those three hours of night flight instruction as a student pilot back in 1978. I've not required more night flight instruction since then though my night currency comes and goes... particularly in the summer. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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