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Old February 13th 06, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://cbs5.com/local/local_story_033155424.html

http://www.sacunion.com/pages/sacramento/articles/7680/

http://www.sacbee.com/content/breaki...14992745c.html

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/s...15003331c.html

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/s...15008039c.html

http://www.sacbee.com/content/breaki...14992712c.html

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Old February 14th 06, 12:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Tom Conner" wrote in
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Boy, nothing like a nice day in Feburary to put GA in the news. I was
watching channel 10 in Sacramento last night. They opened with 3 GA
accidents...

http://www.kxtv.com/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=15902
3) Cherokee in San Jose has engine trouble (or something like that).


I don't think this was in San Jose. San Jose, at Reid-Hillview, had a
plane crash onto Tully road after running out of fuel. A few seconds
earlier and it would have crashed into Eastridge Mall. RHV is one
crash away from closing and this had the potential to be the one. Its
also the 2nd RHV crash in a month where the pilot ran out of fuel.
The other landed on 680.


So the airport is responsible for stupid pilots forgetting to gas
up their planes and therefore should be shut down? Must be gov't logic.

Brian


No but stupid pilots forgetting to gas up provide the ammunition and two
in a month would make anybody stand up and ask questions. Sometimes a
mirror is needed to find the problem.


I agree that the fault lies with the pilots in question.

But it is false logic to use a rash of accidents, which is most
likely nothing more than a statistical fluke, as the basis for
attacking the existence of an airport.

Flip a coin. Odd's a 50/50 for heads or tails. Flip it a hundred
times. There's bound to be a sequence of all heads or all tails
for several times in a row. Taken out of context, does a rash of
15 heads in a row mean that the coin is two headed?

Heck, that isn't even right. By the logic expressed earlier, a
run of 15 heads on a flipped coin would mean the bank is somehow
at fault, and should be shut down.

It's a total disconnect.

But then, that seems to be one of humanity's strong points.

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Old February 14th 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote

5 links about death and mahem.

And you posted these links, why? OT is OT, but this is way OT!
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"Bad news day in Sacramento" That's the title on the thread. Right?

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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote

5 links about death and mahem.

And you posted these links, why? OT is OT, but this is way OT!
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Old February 14th 06, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Another one now...
"2 Dead In Oakdale Plane Crash "
http://www.kcra.com/news/6878598/detail.html

Its like the plane crash station.

-Robert

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"Robert M. Gary"
Another one now...
"2 Dead In Oakdale Plane Crash "
http://www.kcra.com/news/6878598/detail.html

Its like the plane crash station.



KCRA(SH)


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Old February 14th 06, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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And you posted these links, why? OT is OT, but this is way OT!

I think Capt Thrope understood the concept of "Bad news in Sacramento"
but missed the concept of "rec.aviation.piloting"

-Robert

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Old February 14th 06, 04:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Dave Stadt" wrote:

"Skywise" wrote in message
...
"Tom Conner" wrote in
k.net:


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
Boy, nothing like a nice day in Feburary to put GA in the news. I was
watching channel 10 in Sacramento last night. They opened with 3 GA
accidents...

http://www.kxtv.com/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=15902
3) Cherokee in San Jose has engine trouble (or something like that).


I don't think this was in San Jose. San Jose, at Reid-Hillview, had a
plane crash onto Tully road after running out of fuel. A few seconds
earlier and it would have crashed into Eastridge Mall. RHV is one crash
away from closing and this had the potential to be the one. Its also
the 2nd RHV crash in a month where the pilot ran out of fuel. The other
landed on 680.


So the airport is responsible for stupid pilots forgetting to gas
up their planes and therefore should be shut down? Must be gov't logic.

Brian


No but stupid pilots forgetting to gas up provide the ammunition and two in
a month would make anybody stand up and ask questions. Sometimes a mirror
is needed to find the problem.


It is the "Progressives" and the Hispano-Socialists, egged on by the
developers, who are putting the pressure on RHV. When I lived in Silicon
Valley, the local Hispano-Socialists made no bones about playing the
race card against the "rich people from the West Valley" who used RHV.

FAA has already told the County that they cannot simply pay back the
ADAP money to the Feds -- since the FAA paid for the acquisition of the
property, the FAA would get the proceeds from the sale of it if the
airport were to close. That puts a damper on any thoughts of windfall
profits to the County.
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Old February 14th 06, 05:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Tony" wrote in message
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I'm trying to remember the most housing crowded airport I flew into as
PIC.

Midway comes to mind.


You ain't kidding. Have ya been down the lakefront at nite?

My first trip into Midway I was a solo student, 3rd departure was with a
"PPL Test Approved" in my logbook. ;-)

Marty


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Old February 14th 06, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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But it is false logic to use a rash of accidents

True, but I don't see your point. The reality is that there are people
out there looking for amo to close the airport and this will do nicely
for them. Logic, statistics, etc is only meaningful if both sides agree
that they are meaningful. You'll be standing at the city council
meeting talking to yourself in the back of the room about logic while
the council votes to close the airport.

-Robert

 




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