B-52 crashes after takeoff from Guam

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U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing

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A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

At least six crew members were missing, according to the website of Kuam
News, a local station.

The U.S. airforce said in a statement it had no information on the
status of the crew. It did not say how many people were on board the
bomber or give a reason for the crash, which happened at 9:45 a.m. (2345
GMT or 7:45 p.m. EDT), 15 minutes before the parade was about to start.

An air force official was quoted on the Pacific Daily News website
saying the plane was meant to take part in the parade.

July 21 is the day Guam commemorates its 1944 liberation from Japanese
occupation in World War Two.

The island, under U.S. control since 1898, is the only significantly
populated U.S. territory to have ever been occupied by a foreign power.

In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

(Reporting by Carmel Crimmins; Editing by Alex Richardson)

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On Jul 21, 12:10 am, Tiger wrote:
A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

If this is another case where a USAF bomber got it's control systems
confused by hot and humid conditions can they just hand the Pacific
off to the Navy Department and go back to planning how they're going
to stop Iranian IEDs with F-22s please?

-HJC

On Jul 21, 3:10*am, Tiger wrote:
Yahoo! News

U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing

44 minutes ago

A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

At least six crew members were missing, according to the website of Kuam
News, a local station.

The U.S. airforce said in a statement it had no information on the
status of the crew. It did not say how many people were on board the
bomber or give a reason for the crash, which happened at 9:45 a.m. (2345
GMT or 7:45 p.m. EDT), 15 minutes before the parade was about to start.

An air force official was quoted on the Pacific Daily News website
saying the plane was meant to take part in the parade.

July 21 is the day Guam commemorates its 1944 liberation from Japanese
occupation in World War Two.

The island, under U.S. control since 1898, is the only significantly
populated U.S. territory to have ever been occupied by a foreign power.

In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

Nuts. Not hearing nay crew news doesn't sound too good, hope they do
find these guys in a raft somewhere or something. This sucks.

(Reporting by Carmel Crimmins; Editing by Alex Richardson)

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"hcobb" wrote in message
...
On Jul 21, 12:10 am, Tiger wrote:
A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

If this is another case where a USAF bomber got it's control systems
confused by hot and humid conditions can they just hand the Pacific
off to the Navy Department and go back to planning how they're going
to stop Iranian IEDs with F-22s please?

-HJC

You remark is incredibly insensitive in the light of ongoing S&R efforts -
we don't even know if there are survivors yet but you see fit to make
sarcastic remarks. You have no respect sir!

"Tiger" wrote ...
U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing
A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.
----
In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

I have a probably trivial and ignorant question, the B-2 crash.
Recently here (or on a similar ng) there was a picture of the
B-2, showing it basicly intact, belly down, with what
appeared to me to be the airport fire truck nearby it.

Did it's crew eject after it was 'down'?
Or, , , ?

hcobb wrote:
If this is another case where a USAF bomber got it's control systems
confused by hot and humid conditions can they just hand the Pacific
off to the Navy Department and go back to planning how they're going
to stop Iranian IEDs with F-22s please?

You're a prick, Cobb.

Best hopes for survivors...


Jeff
--
Hey, paranoids have enemies, too.

On Jul 21, 8:49 am, "David E. Powell"
wrote:
On Jul 21, 3:10 am, Tiger wrote:



Yahoo! News

U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing

44 minutes ago

A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

At least six crew members were missing, according to the website of Kuam
News, a local station.

The U.S. airforce said in a statement it had no information on the
status of the crew. It did not say how many people were on board the
bomber or give a reason for the crash, which happened at 9:45 a.m. (2345
GMT or 7:45 p.m. EDT), 15 minutes before the parade was about to start.

An air force official was quoted on the Pacific Daily News website
saying the plane was meant to take part in the parade.

July 21 is the day Guam commemorates its 1944 liberation from Japanese
occupation in World War Two.

The island, under U.S. control since 1898, is the only significantly
populated U.S. territory to have ever been occupied by a foreign power.

In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

Nuts. Not hearing nay crew news doesn't sound too good, hope they do
find these guys in a raft somewhere or something. This sucks.

(Reporting by Carmel Crimmins; Editing by Alex Richardson)

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Another source says one man was pulled from the sea and onto the 110
foot cutter Assateague.


B-52 Crashes Off Guam
By Sharon Weinberger EmailJuly 21, 2008 | 7:38:32 AMCategories:
Planes

The Air Force is conducting rescue operations near Guam to recover
crewmembers from a B-52 bomber that crashed off the coast earlier
today. The AP reports that two crewmembers have been found, but
there's no information on their condition. There's also no word yet on
what caused the crash.

"The B-52 bomber based at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana was en
route to conduct a flyover in a parade when it crashed around about 30
miles north-west of Apra Harbour, the Air Force said," the AP reports.

The B-52, despite its age, has an admirable safety record. Aviation
Week's ARES blog reports that the last crash of a B-52 was in 1994;
that accident was blamed on pilot error.

A B-2 bomber crashed off the coast of Guam earlier this year.

On Jul 21, 10:19 am, "a425couple" wrote:
"Tiger" wrote ...

U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing
A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.
----
In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

I have a probably trivial and ignorant question, the B-2 crash.
Recently here (or on a similar ng) there was a picture of the
B-2, showing it basicly intact, belly down, with what
appeared to me to be the airport fire truck nearby it.

Did it's crew eject after it was 'down'?
Or, , , ?

Nope, they shelled out shortly before impact. You can see a video of
the crash at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q, apparently
from a security camera at Anderson.

-JTD

On 21 Jul, 15:32, Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Jul 21, 8:49 am, "David E. Powell"
wrote:



On Jul 21, 3:10 am, Tiger wrote:

Yahoo! News

U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing

44 minutes ago

A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

At least six crew members were missing, according to the website of Kuam
News, a local station.

The U.S. airforce said in a statement it had no information on the
status of the crew. It did not say how many people were on board the
bomber or give a reason for the crash, which happened at 9:45 a.m. (2345
GMT or 7:45 p.m. EDT), 15 minutes before the parade was about to start.

On Jul 21, 2:30 pm, wrote:
On 21 Jul, 15:32, Jack Linthicum wrote:



On Jul 21, 8:49 am, "David E. Powell"
wrote:

On Jul 21, 3:10 am, Tiger wrote:

Yahoo! News

U.S. B-52 bomber crashes off Guam, 6 crew missing

44 minutes ago

A U.S. B-52 bomber that was due to fly in a Liberation Day parade in the
U.S. territory of Guam on Monday crashed into the Pacific Ocean soon
after take-off, news reports and officials said.

At least six crew members were missing, according to the website of Kuam
News, a local station.

The U.S. airforce said in a statement it had no information on the
status of the crew. It did not say how many people were on board the
bomber or give a reason for the crash, which happened at 9:45 a.m. (2345
GMT or 7:45 p.m. EDT), 15 minutes before the parade was about to start.

An air force official was quoted on the Pacific Daily News website
saying the plane was meant to take part in the parade.

July 21 is the day Guam commemorates its 1944 liberation from Japanese
occupation in World War Two.

The island, under U.S. control since 1898, is the only significantly
populated U.S. territory to have ever been occupied by a foreign power.

In February, a B-2 stealth bomber, which costs around $1.2 billion,
crashed at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam. The two pilots on board
ejected safely.

Nuts. Not hearing nay crew news doesn't sound too good, hope they do
find these guys in a raft somewhere or something. This sucks.

(Reporting by Carmel Crimmins; Editing by Alex Richardson)

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redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the
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errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance
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Another source says one man was pulled from the sea and onto the 110
foot cutter Assateague.

B-52 Crashes Off Guam
By Sharon Weinberger EmailJuly 21, 2008 | 7:38:32 AMCategories:
Planes

The Air Force is conducting rescue operations near Guam to recover
crewmembers from a B-52 bomber that crashed off the coast earlier
today. The AP reports that two crewmembers have been found, but
there's no information on their condition. There's also no word yet on
what caused the crash.

"The B-52 bomber based at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana was en
route to conduct a flyover in a parade when it crashed around about 30
miles north-west of Apra Harbour, the Air Force said," the AP reports.

The B-52, despite its age, has an admirable safety record. Aviation
Week's ARES blog reports that the last crash of a B-52 was in 1994;
that accident was blamed on pilot error.

'pilot error' is too soft a term for what happened in 1994, 'pilot
insanity' is probably more appropriate for that incident, which was no
reflection on the actual safety of the plane.

A B-2 bomber crashed off the coast of Guam earlier this year.

As I understand it there are only two causes of aircraft crashes:
pilot error and equipment failure