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Why airplanes fly
Jim Logajan wrote in
: Jacques: Hi Tony. What's new with you? Tony: I've made myself the center of attention on an online discussion group. I can post the most obvious, innocuous statement and it will draw dozens of responses. Jacques: That seems unlikely. People are much smarter than that. What is the nature of this discussion group? Tony: It's a discussion group for pilots. I think they are full of themselves. I could post something like "aircraft fly because their wings generate lift" and I am certain that because I was the one who posted it that it would create at least 30 responses. Jacques: Pilots have to be pretty smart to get where they are. I can't see how that would generate any responses. Okay, I could see maybe two or three but dozens seems entirely out of the question. You aren't that important. Pilots are trained to exercise good judgement. Tony: Ha! I'm willing to bet you 20 euro that if I post the sentence "Fixed-wing aircraft fly because their wings generate lift as they move forward through the air," I will get at least 30 responses. Jacques: Nonsense! That would not be worthy of response. Tell you what - if you get more than 5 responses, I'll pay out 1 euro for every response over that count - but not over 25 euros. If you get 5 or less responses, you owe me 25 euros. And no cheating! That seem fair? Tony: You're on! No begging on Amazn this week eh? Bertie |
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John,
Hey, you forgot the lift fairy in there. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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On Feb 3, 4:50*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
And let it be known as well that lift and thrust are directly proportional to the AMOUNT of money spent :-) Like they say, it only takes two things to fly: airspeed and money. (mostly money). |
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On Feb 3, 2:50 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
THIS is the real reason. And let it be known as well that lift and thrust are directly proportional to the AMOUNT of money spent :-) -- Dudley Henriques I thought lift and thrust were a function of the square root of the amount of money spent. For helicopters, it's the cube root. Dan |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Nope. Of course not. Everybody knows that it is lift fairies that make airplanes fly. Good thing we have to lift fairies too, otherwise we would have nothing to fight the drag demons. Vaughn |
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In rec.aviation.student Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, William Hung said: Dude was doing just fine having a conversation with himself. He asked the question, and he answered it. We all intrued into his conversation. We should have left him alone to talk to himself. I suspect he'd bet somebody that he couldn't post a single thing here without a long thread starting with dozens of people jumping on him to tell him how he's wrong. Well, it's true, but only because MX is incapable of posting a message which isn't worded in such a way that people don't feel strangely compelled to respond. -- Michael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software |
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:59:11 -0500, Dudley Henriques
wrote: wrote: On Feb 3, 2:50 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote: THIS is the real reason. And let it be known as well that lift and thrust are directly proportional to the AMOUNT of money spent :-) -- Dudley Henriques I thought lift and thrust were a function of the square root of the amount of money spent. For helicopters, it's the cube root. I'd been ignoring this thread until I see some of the pilots who know what's going on had chimed in and it seems I wasn't disappointed. Of course Cecil has the basics correct in that essentially there is only one thing that makes an airplane fly and that is money and it's easily proven. Start with a design: if you want it to go farther it costs more money. If you want it to go faster it costs a lot more money. If you want it to go faster AND farther the cost gets ridiculous. However if you are foolish enough to want to move something farther and faster with said airplane the const is unbelievable. Now as to Dudley's lift Demons, it's been proven that about half of the increased money goes into the cost of the aircraft and the other half is bribery money to payoff the Lift Demons. They're lazy little critters that loath to do much work. They hate to lift things and they neither like to move fast or for more than a few minutes at a time so you have to hire them to work in shifts. On top of that they have more skilled trades than the Auto workers. First off, each airport has it's own accelerate and stop unions. These are the Demons that accelerate your plane down the runway so the Lift Demons that belong to the climbing union can take the plane up to altitude where the cruise union takes over as well as the group that catches the landing plane and slows it to a stop. (that second group brings up some problems I'll get to later). Now the Demons in the climb Union are like a bunch of burley doc workers. They can lift a lot, but not real fast and with all that muscle burning carbs they can eat you out of house and home if you try to climb too fast or too long. They are only willing to do so much work so if you try to climb too fast, steep, or for too long they start borrowing from the cruise union which tires out the cruise Demons. They just don't have the stamina for that kind of work so you end up losing a lot of range. At any rate, the cruise union has it the easiest as they like to ease off a little and just sit up there enjoying the view. Of course this brings us to the descent demons who are more or less just along for the ride until the landing demons take over. Now this is where things get sticky. Remember I mentioned each airport has it's own accelerate and stop Demons. Now if the landing Demons belong to the same union as the stop Demons, or are at least on good terms with the local you are in fine shape, but these guys tend to be quite territorial and often there is a bit of a tussle as to which group lands the plane with the result often being a less than elegant touchdown. The poor pilot usually gets blamed for the results of this territorial dispute when he was just an innocent bystander. So the next time a flight goes great except for the landing,, don't blame the folks up front. It really wasn't their fault. Blame the airport manager for skimming too much off the top of the bribes to the Lift Demons or the locals being a bit too greedy with their territory. Roger (K8RI) Dan Lift Demons! Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Why airplanes fly? Because if they didn't, they'd be cars.
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On Feb 3, 2:40 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
george wrote : On Feb 4, 6:53 am, Mxsmanic wrote: Fixed-wing aircraft fly because their wings generate lift as they move forward through the air. .Why do aeroplanes fly ? Because they can There ya go! Bertie And here all this time I thought airplanes flew because the earth sucks.* * - ...it just sucks less when you're in an airplane! |
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