F/A-22 flyover during Rose Bowl

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote:
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

Get a clue, Ferrin, some of those 19 different F-22s do have strakes.

And some year now, Tarver's going to find us an actual photo of one of
them.

That would be illegal.

Well, you'd better go arrest the TV networks, since they showed those
videos of one flying around on January 1. No strakes, by the way.

And out of the *hundreds* of photos of the F-22 that have been posted
and published in the last couple of years, it's really funny that *none*
of them have strakes.

And the only person on the planet who seems to claim that they *do* have
them is, well, one lunatic.

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From: "John Keeney"
Date: 1/3/2004 10:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
news

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:57:26 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:27:31 -0800, Hobo wrote:

In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:

I know that we always worried about the HiMAT (Highly
Maneuverable
Aircraft Technology, a subscale research vehicle capable of 0.9
Mach)
escaping from remote-piloting control and zipping over the San
Gabriels to Pasadena because it's so close. So much so, in fact,
that
we put a backup control into the back seat of an F-104 that we
chased
it with.

Was the F-104 equipped to shoot down the HIMAT, if necessary?

No. It was prepared to control it well enough to get it back close
enough for the regular system to take over.

Bull****, the HiMAT lawn darted on every flight.


http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/HiMAT/index.html

Specifically:
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Pho...C79-12055.html
which shows the "HiMAT on lakebed after landing."
Since HMAT isn't attached to the B-52 and the scoot marks across the lake
bed
behind it lead directly to the landing gear we can safely say it didn't
"lawn dart"
on at least one flight.


There you go ruining a perfectly good tarversim with facts. Have you no shame?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"John Keeney" wrote in message
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Specifically:
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Pho...C79-12055.html
which shows the "HiMAT on lakebed after landing."
Since HMAT isn't attached to the B-52 and the scoot marks across the lake
bed
behind it lead directly to the landing gear we can safely say it didn't
"lawn dart"
on at least one flight.

One in thirteen is pretty a poor record, especially when at that point there
is no fix.

Did you know that if your RC toy cuts through a row of cotton, you have to
buy the entire row? Nowhere near the San Gabrial Mountains though.
Speaking of debrit fields over populated areas, perhaps the Shuttle will
come back to Eddie's.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ...
So then, is USC #1?

Yes Tarver, they are.

The formation flew once down Colorado when the USAF Band rounded the
TV corner, did a turn and then came back. They had been circling for
at least 45 min prior north of the mountains.

The Helo flyover was the La County "Firehawk" and 2 of their Hueys
when the fire fighters float ended the parade.

The stealth formation also went over the Rose Bowl at the end of the
national anthem. The USAF Academy Wings of Blue parachuted in prior
with the game ball and the coin for the flip. Gen Tommy Franks (ret)
flipped the coin with composer John Williams.

Kevin
F-117A: The Black Jet
www.f-117a.com

F-117A Webmaster wrote:

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ...


So then, is USC #1?



Yes Tarver, they are.

The formation flew once down Colorado when the USAF Band rounded the
TV corner, did a turn and then came back. They had been circling for
at least 45 min prior north of the mountains.

The Helo flyover was the La County "Firehawk" and 2 of their Hueys
when the fire fighters float ended the parade.

The stealth formation also went over the Rose Bowl at the end of the
national anthem. The USAF Academy Wings of Blue parachuted in prior
with the game ball and the coin for the flip. Gen Tommy Franks (ret)
flipped the coin with composer John Williams.

Kevin
F-117A: The Black Jet
www.f-117a.com


Where were the ships temporarily based at for this flyover?

"F-117A Webmaster" wrote in message
om...
"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...
So then, is USC #1?

Yes Tarver, they are.

The formation flew once down Colorado when the USAF Band rounded the
TV corner, did a turn and then came back. They had been circling for
at least 45 min prior north of the mountains.

The Helo flyover was the La County "Firehawk" and 2 of their Hueys
when the fire fighters float ended the parade.

The stealth formation also went over the Rose Bowl at the end of the
national anthem. The USAF Academy Wings of Blue parachuted in prior
with the game ball and the coin for the flip. Gen Tommy Franks (ret)
flipped the coin with composer John Williams.

Kevin
F-117A: The Black Jet
www.f-117a.com

Dang it, I missed it.

"F-117A Webmaster" wrote in message
om...
"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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So then, is USC #1?

Yes Tarver, they are.

The formation flew once down Colorado when the USAF Band rounded the
TV corner, did a turn and then came back. They had been circling for
at least 45 min prior north of the mountains.

The Helo flyover was the La County "Firehawk" and 2 of their Hueys
when the fire fighters float ended the parade.

The stealth formation also went over the Rose Bowl at the end of the
national anthem. The USAF Academy Wings of Blue parachuted in prior
with the game ball and the coin for the flip. Gen Tommy Franks (ret)
flipped the coin with composer John Williams.

UCLA however is whining.

Go dogs.

"fudog50" wrote in message
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What in the heck does an F-104 and HiMAT have to do with the Rose Bowl
and the flyover?? for cryin out loud, you need to change your name to

I like Mary and she can change the subjet to anyting she wants to, anytime
she wants to. A net contributer to the newsgroup.

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Scott Ferrin
Date: 1/3/2004 5:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 08:03:55 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
news On 2 Jan 2004 06:46:15 -0800, (Michael) wrote:

NBC's coverage of the parade had some tight shots of the formation -
very pretty. As the plane is not operational, I was surprised to
see it in something as trivial (sorry) as a parade flyby.

The F-22 lives just over the San Gabriels, though, no distance at all.
It's not as if it came from somewhere far away. EDW is probably only
50 miles from Pasadena, maybe less, by air.

I know that we always worried about the HiMAT (Highly Maneuverable
Aircraft Technology, a subscale research vehicle capable of 0.9 Mach)
escaping from remote-piloting control and zipping over the San
Gabriels to Pasadena because it's so close.

No, that would be because NASA built a crappy data link to the HiMAT; as
demonstrated by it's 100% crash rate.



Explain to us how two aircraft making 26 flights equals a 100% crash
rate.

According to NASA the only 2 HiMATs made are on display in the
Smithsonian.

Pretty much irrelevent, Dan.

The HiMAT is a nice little bee, if one were to want to make a swarm of bees.
The problem with the vehicle was electrical (data link) and that is what has
robbed NASA of many successes even to today.

Remember, the Shuttle crash investigation board made a specific finding that
NASA's problems were partly tracable to their "failure to attract and retain
EEs". What I am writing is no surprise to anyone familiar with timely
information.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:


"fudog50" wrote in message
.. .
What in the heck does an F-104 and HiMAT have to do with the Rose Bowl
and the flyover?? for cryin out loud, you need to change your name to

I like Mary and she can change the subjet to anyting she wants to, anytime
she wants to. A net contributer to the newsgroup.

Possibly true...unless you want to discuss 'Pilot Error' (she
thinks that there's no such thing)
--

-Gord.