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Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)



 
 
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Old June 18th 07, 12:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)

On 2007-06-13, Thomas Borchert wrote:
Gwengler,

a) parachute equipped airplane pilots tend to assume greater
risk ("all I have to do is to pull the handle")


Any kind of factual support for that statement? Even a hint would
surprise me.


Actually, percieved risk homeostatis is a well established psychological
phenomena - i.e. given safety improvements, a person generally will take
more risks until they are back at their normal level of risk comfort. So
people with ABS brakes and airbags tend to drive faster (and possibly
more recklessly) compared to when they didn't have ABS and airbags. It's
been cited in many road safety studies. There's no reason why it
wouldn't apply to aircraft.

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Old June 18th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)

On 2007-06-15, Thomas Borchert wrote:
Uhm, accident rates DO plummet - with ABS and all the other safety
enhancements we have in modern cars. Now what does that do for the
theories of psychology experts?


If you look at the bigger picture, it's less clear. For example, when
seatbelts were made mandatory in Britain, although the injury rate
went down amongst occupants of cars, the injury rate went up for
cyclists and pedestrians. Cars were crashing more often, but causing
less harm to their occupants (but causing more risk, nonetheless,
to those outside the vehicle).

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Old June 18th 07, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Default Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)

Dylan,

Actually, percieved risk homeostatis is a well established psychological
phenomena


Well, if you read the rest of the thread (and the literature), it is less
than established, I'd say.

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Old June 18th 07, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)

Food for thought, and the thing I think of when the subject of Cirrus
come up is the insurance costs. If you are comparing an older 182 with
a brand new Cirrus, won't the hull-value part of your insurance eat
you alive...?
That's been one of the factors that gives me pause when considering
one of the local groups that has shares of an SR22 for sale. (but it's
not the only one).

I guess it all really depends on your "mission" that you need an
airplane for.
-Ryan in Madison

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Old June 19th 07, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Default Should I upgrade from Skylane to Cirrus SR20? (not mxmaniac infested)


"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2007-06-15, Thomas Borchert wrote:
Uhm, accident rates DO plummet - with ABS and all the other safety
enhancements we have in modern cars. Now what does that do for the
theories of psychology experts?


If you look at the bigger picture, it's less clear. For example, when
seatbelts were made mandatory in Britain, although the injury rate
went down amongst occupants of cars, the injury rate went up for
cyclists and pedestrians. Cars were crashing more often, but causing
less harm to their occupants (but causing more risk, nonetheless,
to those outside the vehicle).

This is exactly the sort of behavior that I have observed on the street,
without benefit of the statistics to back it up.



 




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