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Old November 17th 04, 10:34 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Michael" wrote in message
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Dylan Smith wrote
The more telling stats is that despite Britain's more regulated aviation
environment, the British accident rate is HIGHER than in the US.


Of course. All safety rules inevitably make things less safe.

Oddly, it pertains to crime (skyrocketing in the UK) as well.


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Old November 18th 04, 03:03 AM
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If you have better data to the contrary please let us know. Gene Whitt is a
long time contributor to this group and an experienced CFI. I consider him
a dependable source of information, just as much as AOPA.


"Dave Stadt" wrote in news:JoBmd.29523$Qv5.27913
@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:




http://www.whittsflying.com/Page6.34Statistics%20of%
20Flying.htm#Statistics%20of%20Flying


The Nall report supports the 2003 data.


Still useless information for comparison purposes.



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Old November 18th 04, 11:02 AM
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
Of course. All safety rules inevitably make things less safe.

Oddly, it pertains to crime (skyrocketing in the UK) as well.


Really? All the recent figures for the UK (IIRC) show a slight decrease
in the rate in the last couple of years. Of course, as you criminalise
more things, you'll by default get more criminals.

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Old November 18th 04, 04:06 PM
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Andrew Sarangan wrote
If you have better data to the contrary please let us know. Gene Whitt is a
long time contributor to this group and an experienced CFI. I consider him
a dependable source of information, just as much as AOPA.


The point is not that the information is undependable - the point is
that it is useless. Total number of accidents tells us nothing unless
we also know ALL of:

Hours flown
Experience level of the pilots
Types of missions flown

We have no real data on the last two, and only rough estimates on the
first. Anecdotally, I've noticed that as time goes on, the mission
profile tends to change.

A good friend of mine learned to fly in the early 1960's. He soloed
at 15. No, it wsn't legal. He was taught by a cropduster in a Champ.
He soloed in 4 hours. He then flew over, picked up a friend, and
they headed up to Wisconsin - from Texas. They flew at night with no
night training - and no lights. And none of this was particularly
unusual then, but it would never happen now.

The mission profile was a lot different then, so comparing accident
totals (or even accident rates) is not meaningful. It's hard to get
hurt if you never do anything.

Michael
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Old November 19th 04, 01:24 AM
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
Of course. All safety rules inevitably make things less safe.

Oddly, it pertains to crime (skyrocketing in the UK) as well.


Really? All the recent figures for the UK (IIRC) show a slight decrease
in the rate in the last couple of years. Of course, as you criminalise
more things, you'll by default get more criminals.


Really, is that why some of the major stories here are about the CURRENTLY
(2001) skyrocketing VIOLENT crime?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/205139.shtml

Or this from WSJ Opinion (Don't have the original link)
'Twasn't Ever Thus
Liberal snobbery helps make Britain the world's most crime-ridden country.

BY THEODORE DALRYMPLE
Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:01 a.m.

LONDON--Britain is now the world leader in very little, with the single
possible exception of crime.
Recent figures published by the U.N. show that Britain is now among the most
crime-ridden countries in the world. Its citizens are much more likely to be
attacked or robbed on the street, or have their houses burgled, than their
counterparts in, say, Russia or South Africa, let alone the U.S. Everyday
experience in Britain is quite sufficient to establish that we now live in a
deeply criminalized society.

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