Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Safety?

Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

Which proposed conditions would permit air traffic controllers to
remain at their posts beyond the current maximum retirement age of 56?

If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

Will future UAVs require ATC?



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AVflash Volume 10, Number 25b -- June 17, 2004
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FAA MAY RAISE ATC RETIREMENT AGE...
On Tuesday, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey told a Congressional panel
that the maximum retirement age of 56 for air traffic controllers
might need to be raised, to help deal with an unprecedented avalanche
of retirements. More than 7,000 controllers, almost half the
workforce, are expected to leave in the next nine years, as the cohort
of workers hired in the early 1980s -- after President Ronald Reagan
fired more than 12,000 striking controllers -- reaches retirement age.
"At Congress's request," Blakey told the House Aviation Subcommittee,
"we are preparing regulations that would permit a controller, under
certain conditions, to remain in the workforce beyond the mandatory
separation age of 56."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187489

....AS NATCA CALLS FOR ACTION NOW...
Ruth Marlin, executive vice president of the National Air Traffic
Controllers Association, told the panel that raising the retirement
age will not solve the problem -- it's time now to start hiring at
least 1,000 new controllers. The FAA's plan to collect more data
before taking action will only make things worse, she said. "We can do
yet another round of studies and reports but the answer is plainly in
front of all of us," Marlin said. "The FAA must immediately begin
hiring and training the next generation of air traffic controllers to
prepare for the inevitable shortage. And Congress must provide the FAA
with resources to do so."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187490

....AND TRAINING ISSUES ARISE
George Ebbs Jr., president of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
(ERAU), testified on Tuesday that the government's training program
for new hires in Oklahoma City is redundant and unnecessary, and also
asked that training rules be relaxed to allow candidates who already
have a college degree to advance more quickly. If ERAU could send its
graduates directly to on-the-job training, Ebbs said, "the FAA could
realize significant savings in both time and expense. " Ebbs also said
that an accelerated program for college graduates could enable ERAU to
train an additional 600 controllers per year.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187491
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Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

The FAA is not reluctant to train Air Traffic Controllers, just there are a
lot that will retire because they were hired at the same time by President
Regan. I doubt there is a "hidden agenda."


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...


Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

Which proposed conditions would permit air traffic controllers to
remain at their posts beyond the current maximum retirement age of 56?

If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

Will future UAVs require ATC?



-------------------------------------------------------------------
AVflash Volume 10, Number 25b -- June 17, 2004
-------------------------------------------------------------------


FAA MAY RAISE ATC RETIREMENT AGE...
On Tuesday, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey told a Congressional panel
that the maximum retirement age of 56 for air traffic controllers
might need to be raised, to help deal with an unprecedented avalanche
of retirements. More than 7,000 controllers, almost half the
workforce, are expected to leave in the next nine years, as the cohort
of workers hired in the early 1980s -- after President Ronald Reagan
fired more than 12,000 striking controllers -- reaches retirement age.
"At Congress's request," Blakey told the House Aviation Subcommittee,
"we are preparing regulations that would permit a controller, under
certain conditions, to remain in the workforce beyond the mandatory
separation age of 56."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187489

...AS NATCA CALLS FOR ACTION NOW...
Ruth Marlin, executive vice president of the National Air Traffic
Controllers Association, told the panel that raising the retirement
age will not solve the problem -- it's time now to start hiring at
least 1,000 new controllers. The FAA's plan to collect more data
before taking action will only make things worse, she said. "We can do
yet another round of studies and reports but the answer is plainly in
front of all of us," Marlin said. "The FAA must immediately begin
hiring and training the next generation of air traffic controllers to
prepare for the inevitable shortage. And Congress must provide the FAA
with resources to do so."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187490

...AND TRAINING ISSUES ARISE
George Ebbs Jr., president of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
(ERAU), testified on Tuesday that the government's training program
for new hires in Oklahoma City is redundant and unnecessary, and also
asked that training rules be relaxed to allow candidates who already
have a college degree to advance more quickly. If ERAU could send its
graduates directly to on-the-job training, Ebbs said, "the FAA could
realize significant savings in both time and expense. " Ebbs also said
that an accelerated program for college graduates could enable ERAU to
train an additional 600 controllers per year.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#187491
--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

In article , Larry Dighera
wrote:

Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

probably not


What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

$$$$




Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

nope.


Will future UAVs require ATC?

probably.

--
Bob Noel

Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

No, for two reasons. There are already some controllers working
beyond the age 56 retirement because they were grandfathered in before
the mandatory retirement age was put in place. I don't think anyone
has shown them to be more dangerous at the scopes.

Second, I don't think the change will mean much of anything. Most of
my co-workers (I work at Denver ARTCC) are counting down the days
until they're eligible, and plan to leave the second they can. So
raising the mandatory retirement age will make no difference, they'll
be gone by the earliest retirement age.


Which proposed conditions would permit air traffic controllers to
remain at their posts beyond the current maximum retirement age of 56?

Probably just if they can continue to pass their medical.


If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

The proposed regulation won't do anything, because controllers will
retire at their minimum retirement age, not maximum.


What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

Costs too much, and they are deluded into thinking that controllers
just love the FAA and will stay there as long as possible, rather than
trying to get out as soon as they can.


Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

The FAA isn't organized enough as an agency to have a hidden agenda.


Will future UAVs require ATC?

Probably, at least for a long time to come.


If ERAU could send its
graduates directly to on-the-job training, Ebbs said, "the FAA could
realize significant savings in both time and expense. "

The Minneapolis school was doing exactly this and had to be shut down
until further notice because of funding (the FAA still paid part of
the expenses, as they also would in the ERAU proposal). I don't
understand why ERAU thinks they could do it when they just closed the
one who was doing it successfully for many years.


JK

Larry Dighera wrote:

Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

Which proposed conditions would permit air traffic controllers to
remain at their posts beyond the current maximum retirement age of 56?

What would make a controller more dangerous to air safety at age 57
instead of 56? How was the age 56 determined? Can you explain if
existing controllers who are older than 56 are more dangerous than others
and if so, why?

If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

Reluctance or money?



Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

Unlikely.

Will future UAVs require ATC?

Perhaps. Why wouldn't air traffic need air traffic control comparable to
other aircraft in an ATC environment?

Larry Dighera wrote:

Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

Which proposed conditions would permit air traffic controllers to
remain at their posts beyond the current maximum retirement age of 56?

If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

What is the reason for FAA's apparent reluctance to train sufficient
additional ATC personnel?

Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

Will future UAVs require ATC?

What are your opinions?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Will The Proposed Change In ATC Personnel Requirements Impact Air
Safety?

The FAA never admits anything affects air safety, even when it does.


If half the ATC personnel are due to retire in nine years, how long
will the proposed regulation be effective in overcoming attrition?

The FAA has more people than they need now. They only say they need more
because of archaic personnel rules. For example they will never tell me
that my facility is overstaffed and we are moving you to XXX. The only way
I go is if they close or contract out the facility.



Doe that reluctance reveal a hidden agenda?

Buffoonery.




Will future UAVs require ATC?

Absolutely.