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How reliably do CG hooks disconnect when the angle of the ropeexceeds the autorelease angle



 
 
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Old June 9th 20, 07:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Daly[_2_]
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Default How reliably do CG hooks disconnect when the angle of the ropeexceeds the autorelease angle

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:27:45 PM UTC-4, wrote:
A quick way is to only use a TOST ring set where you can still read (most) of the TOST part number stamped on the side of the small ring. With dimension change due to wear&tear, the part number will become unreadable.
This has the dual benefit of also ensuring you are being hooked up with a proper TOST ring set and not a home made or repaired set.
PS- Remind me to take a calipers out to the airfield next visit and validate a suspect worn ring’s dimensions. Thanks, whoever posted the spec dims.


It's on the oval ring on my ring pair... and TOST is stamped at the bottom of it.
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Old June 9th 20, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How reliably do CG hooks disconnect when the angle of the ropeexceeds the autorelease angle

While inspecting, look for small (maybe 1/32 inch?) cracks.

That seems to happen before noticeable wear changes.
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Old June 9th 20, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Marotta View Post
I was taught that, if unable to release, the glider should circle the
winch rather than slingshot towards the ground.Â* And why wouldn't the
driver cut the cable as soon as the glider overflew the winch and
started down?Â* Training...

On 6/8/2020 5:59 PM, Ventus_a wrote:
he winch driver didn't cut the cable and the winch was getting
destabilised as the glider went through about 45 degress down towards
the ground behind the winch. Going through about 400' with lots of
frantic pulling on the release and the stick the cable finally let go
and the day was saved.. Some badly shaken people and the hook
installation got a good working over to ensure that it couldn't happen
again

Colin


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Hi Dan

The winch driver was an older gentleman and he bailed out of the winch. I suspect lack of familiarity with the cutting system and a sense of his own vulnerability prevailed. Since then a more robust training system is in place for winch drivers
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Old June 10th 20, 12:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How reliably do CG hooks disconnect when the angle of the ropeexceeds the autorelease angle

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:27:45 PM UTC-4, wrote:
A quick way is to only use a TOST ring set where you can still read (most) of the TOST part number stamped on the side of the small ring. With dimension change due to wear&tear, the part number will become unreadable.
This has the dual benefit of also ensuring you are being hooked up with a proper TOST ring set and not a home made or repaired set.
PS- Remind me to take a calipers out to the airfield next visit and validate a suspect worn ring’s dimensions. Thanks, whoever posted the spec dims.


Welcome!

Uli
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Old June 10th 20, 06:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default How reliably do CG hooks disconnect when the angle of theropeexceeds the autorelease angle

Us older guys need to step up our game!

On 6/9/2020 4:45 PM, Ventus_a wrote:
Dan Marotta;1022870 Wrote:
I was taught that, if unable to release, the glider should circle the
winch rather than slingshot towards the ground.Â* And why wouldn't the
driver cut the cable as soon as the glider overflew the winch and
started down?Â* Training...

On 6/8/2020 5:59 PM, Ventus_a wrote:-
he winch driver didn't cut the cable and the winch was getting
destabilised as the glider went through about 45 degress down towards
the ground behind the winch. Going through about 400' with lots of
frantic pulling on the release and the stick the cable finally let go
and the day was saved.. Some badly shaken people and the hook
installation got a good working over to ensure that it couldn't happen
again

Colin-

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Dan, 5J

Hi Dan

The winch driver was an older gentleman and he bailed out of the winch.
I suspect lack of familiarity with the cutting system and a sense of his
own vulnerability prevailed. Since then a more robust training system
is in place for winch drivers





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Dan, 5J
 




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