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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:42:39 GMT, kontiki
wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: You feel that way despite the fact that Halliburton earned their income from the US government? Larry, your fixation with 'Haliburton' demonstrates you can't think rationally. It's a valid question that illustrates what you are advocating. You're dismissal of it in a thinly valid personal attack demonstrates very clearly, that you are unable to respond to it without admitting that it is your reasoning that is faulty, and emotionally based on subjective self-interest. In your ideal world, how would the US government be funded? If its functions were limited to those specified by the Constitution it would be funded by various excises [sic] taxes and that's it. What amount of excise tax, expressed as a percentage of sale price, would have to be charged to fund the military, NAS, maintain the nation's infrastructure (roads, courts, national parks, ...)? If producers were paying such an excise tax on the raw materials they used in the production of their products, could they be competitive in foreign markets? If such an excise tax as you advocate meant that there would be no escaping the payment of taxes by any person or entity, I would consider supporting it. But if you're going tell me you advocate certain exclusions, it betray's your hidden agenda. You seem to forget the fact the government functioned fine without income tax for the first 150 years of its existance. I'm not advocating any increases in any taxes. Where'd you get that idea? |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:43:49 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in . net: "Jose" wrote in message t... Well, if your employer didn't have to double it, your salary might well be higher by that amount. And you'd be free to invest it in a better plan than social security. But the nation wouldn't be guaranteed that you wouldn't become a bourdon in your years of retirement, if your choice of retirement plan turned out the way it did for Enron employees. |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
Larry Dighera wrote:
But the nation wouldn't be guaranteed that you wouldn't become a bourdon in your years of retirement, if your choice of retirement plan turned out the way it did for Enron employees. They are only a burden (on taxpayers) because politicians have made it a policy to hand out money to everybody. Social Security is a huge problem Larry, it is not a good program. It hasn't worked... its a pyramid scheme full of fraud and destined for failure withouth continual bailouts from hard working Americans. If it were a private business it would have gone broke years ago and far fewer people would be hurt in the long run. |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:03:57 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in t: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . Because it lacks long-range vision, and encourages sleaze and planned obsolescence rather than durable, high quality products. It doesn't. What does? |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:40:04 GMT, kontiki
wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: Why isn't profit motive sufficient encouragement to produce things? Because it lacks long-range vision, and encourages sleaze and planned obsolescence rather than durable, high quality products. Oh, I see. If it isn;t something that "government' envisions as a 'good" thing then it lacks long range vision. I am at a loss to understand why you insist on bringing government into the discussion. You were talking about PROFIT MOTIVE, not government. You think Hillary or someone like that *really* cares about people, or that her "long range thinkin" is about anything other than getting elected? I have very little esteem for today's Congressional representatives. And I have no clue how that is germane to the subject of PROFIT MOTIVE. You have just factually illustrated your irrational thinking. Or you have just demonstrated your inability to comprehend the written word. :-) I rest my case. For some unknown reason, we seem to be talking past each other. |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:42:42 GMT, kontiki
wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: That is my point. Today's Capitalism demands that producers meet the lowest price in the marketplace, or face insolvency. And that, my friend, is exactly how it is supposed to work. MArxism see things totally differently... the way you do in fact. Unfortunately, you seem to be unable to understand my point of view at all. I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:49:51 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in : bourdon == burden |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:57:10 GMT, kontiki
wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: But the nation wouldn't be guaranteed that you wouldn't become a bourdon in your years of retirement, if your choice of retirement plan turned out the way it did for Enron employees. They are only a burden (on taxpayers) because politicians have made it a policy to hand out money to everybody. Wouldn't you characterize streets awash in homeless retirees a burden on society? |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:57:10 GMT, kontiki wrote in : They are only a burden (on taxpayers) because politicians have made it a policy to hand out money to everybody. Wouldn't you characterize streets awash in homeless retirees a burden on society? Many companies today allow there workers to opt out of health care, and receive the dollars saved, by furnishing some type of certification of insurance elsewhere. Usually a working spouse with family benefits. I see no reason why anyone that can supply adiquate investment information on their tax return, should not be allowed to receive a refund of all SS and FICA monies, or simply avoid the deduction to begin with. Yes, these investments would have to "insured or qualified" by the FDIC or some such entity, but it's very workable. There would be dozens, if not hundreds of investment opportunities tailored to suit with in weeks. But the problem is, the fed has let the SS system get well behind the curve. If they don't "tax us today", the system supposedly funded by today's receipents long ago, would colapse. So in reality, money invested by today's receipents long ago, has been spent by the fed, the people that were supposed to be insuring their furture. And the only way they can keep their promise, is to tax us today. |
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NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Maxwell writes: Hardly, considering the amount they spend. You could have a very active log book with the kind of money most people choose to spend on electronics. How much money do "most" people spend on electronics? Apparently you are just not old enough to simply look around yourself to answer that question junior. In the last 20 years, nothing has changed our buying habits more than electronics. And it has nothing to do with "bang for the buck" as you like to suggest. It's just trends. Everyone is always looking for something new and different. |
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