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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynew standard Features!
On 11/10/20 9:22 AM, Mike Schumann wrote:
On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote: Dan Marotta wrote on 11/10/2020 7:31 AM: On 11/10/20 6:14 AM, wrote: So, to see a UAT equipped aircraft with a 1090 receiver you need to be close to an aircraft with 1090 in/out. Most reliable way to do this is to put adsb 1090 in/out on your glider. To be seen by that UAT equipped aircraft, same answer. With adsb out on the glider and the flarm core 1090 rx, the only issue I'm seeing is latency in the ground relay system. It will be really neat if a flarm core s/w upgrade adds UAT rx, or turns on all of the h/w in the box, especially the second flarm transmitter. Lacking that, instead of switching to a new flarm box, would it be better to put the money into adsb out? That said, if I was adding flarm, the new one looks nice. If you have an experimental glider and a Trig transponder, it only costs around $400 to add a TN-72 GPS and antenna. That gives you dual ADS-B Out. With the addition of a Stratux receiver $150-250 depending upon whether you assemble it yourself or buy a preassembled and tested unit, you get dual ADS-B In. I have that in my gyroplane. I use a TN-70 in the Stemme since it has Standard certification. Flarm receives the ADS-B signals and my ClearNav II and Flarmview display targets. In the gyro I use an iPad with FlyQ. Works great in both! How does the Stratux connect to CN II and Flarmview? I like the size of the Scout, but I think it only works with Foreflight, which I don't use. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 pingUSB is the same size as Scout, but works with almost all apps. Only downside is that it is a traffic only dual frequency ADS-B receiver (no weather). The cost is $175. Thanks for that. The Stratux brings in weather and TFRs in addition to traffic, maybe other stuff, but those are all I care about. -- Dan 5J |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas.
http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
Flarm also says the Core 1.1 transmits on both antennas. But I have not yet heard that they have FCC approval for that. In the interim, they can't transmit on the B antenna in North America.
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
The specification table says 'second FLARM receiving antenna"
On 11/18/20 4:41 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote: According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas. http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 6:48:39 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Flarm also says the Core 1.1 transmits on both antennas. But I have not yet heard that they have FCC approval for that. In the interim, they can't transmit on the B antenna in North America. Flarm says that the PowerFlarm core does not transmit on both antennas in the USA. It does in Europe. I just sent another email to Flarm asking. Does the Flarm Fusion transmit and receive on both A and B antennas in the USA with FCC approval? Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
On 11/18/20 4:41 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas. http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com That looks to me like you can buy a license to activate the "B" antenna. Isn't that like buying a license to active the passenger side seat belt in a car? Or the rear brakes? -- Dan 5J |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
On 11/19/2020 11:12 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
On 11/18/20 4:41 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote: According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas. http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com That looks to me like you can buy a license to activate the "B" antenna. Â*Isn't that like buying a license to active the passenger side seat belt in a car?Â* Or the rear brakes? Maybe if you pay extra they'll sell you the feature where it keeps on working after the firmware "expires"? (As long as the data packets are still compatible.) |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
Moshe Braner wrote on 11/19/2020 9:31 AM:
On 11/19/2020 11:12 AM, Dan Marotta wrote: On 11/18/20 4:41 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote: According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas. http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com That looks to me like you can buy a license to activate the "B" antenna. **Isn't that like buying a license to active the passenger side seat belt in a car?* Or the rear brakes? Maybe if you pay extra they'll sell you the feature where it keeps on working after the firmware "expires"?* (As long as the data packets are still compatible.) Dan: We have no choice about seat belts and brakes, which are mandated by law. Do you want to go there with PowerFlarm? :^( Dan: Buying a license for an optional feature (also known as "buying an optional feature") is like buying the "primo" optional interior for your new car, except you can do it anytime, even years after the purchase, unlike that fancy interior. Would you rather they included everything that is now optional, and charged you for it, instead letting you pay for only what you need? Moshe: They give me the updates FREE anytime I want one. I'm not going to whine about the 10 minutes it takes me to read the update instructions and load it into the glider. The present system seems like a good compromise: all units are no more than 1 year behind in capability, at no $ cost, and very little time and effort. As pilots, we are required to "update" our gliders every year with an inspection, to "update" the pilot every two years with a flight review, to keep our charts and database current yearly or less, to "update" our parachute every 180 days - I think we should expect a pilot to also handle updating Flarm! -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 |
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PowerFlarm offers new Version, PowerFlarm Fusion Includes Manynewstandard Features!
On 11/19/20 11:21 AM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Moshe Braner wrote on 11/19/2020 9:31 AM: On 11/19/2020 11:12 AM, Dan Marotta wrote: On 11/18/20 4:41 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote: According to Flarm the New Fusion transmits and receives on both A and B Flarm Antennas. http://www.craggyaero.com/fusion.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com That looks to me like you can buy a license to activate the "B" antenna. Â*Â*Isn't that like buying a license to active the passenger side seat belt in a car?Â* Or the rear brakes? Maybe if you pay extra they'll sell you the feature where it keeps on working after the firmware "expires"?Â* (As long as the data packets are still compatible.) Dan: We have no choice about seat belts and brakes, which are mandated by law. Do you want to go there with PowerFlarm? :^( Dan: Buying a license for an optional feature (also known as "buying an optional feature") is like buying the "primo" optional interior for your new car, except you can do it anytime, even years after the purchase, unlike that fancy interior. Would you rather they included everything that is now optional, and charged you for it, instead letting you pay for only what you need? Moshe: They give me the updates FREE anytime I want one. I'm not going to whine about the 10 minutes it takes me to read the update instructions and load it into the glider. The present system seems like a good compromise: all units are no more than 1 year behind in capability, at no $ cost, and very little time and effort. As pilots, we are required to "update" our gliders every year with an inspection, to "update" the pilot every two years with a flight review, to keep our charts and database current yearly or less, to "update" our parachute every 180 days - I think we should expect a pilot to also handle updating Flarm! I think Dan was talking about paying extra to turn on features, such as audio output jack, IGC logging, ENL for IGC logging, using the B antenna, etc. This new PowerFlarm makes that stuff standard, rather than an la carte. The documentation provided by Richard shows the flarm B antenna being usable as standard, but as a receive only antenna. I expect it can transmit, but only if the FCC ever approves that. |
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