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Old September 9th 08, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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On Aug 28, 7:27 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
By definition, experimental aircraft have unknown characteristics. It
makes
sense that you'd want to test them out away from heavily populated
areas.
Boeing and other civilian and military manufacturers don't test out
their new
designs at LAX.


In the context of this discussion 'experimental' is a misnomer. Many,
if not most homebuilt airplanes are classed by the FAA as
'experimental',
even popular kitplanes of proven design.


Even a certified factory aircraft may be reclassified as "experimental".

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Old August 29th 08, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


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Old August 29th 08, 12:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.piloting Steve Foley wrote:
"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


Must be election time in Clark County.


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Old August 29th 08, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

In article ,
"Steve Foley" wrote:

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


The guy is obviously an ignorant a$$! He seems to have no experience in
REAL GA -- probably an ex-military heavy driver.

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Old August 29th 08, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

In article
,
Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
"Steve Foley" wrote:

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the
members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said
at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's
naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


The guy is obviously an ignorant a$$! He seems to have no experience in
REAL GA -- probably an ex-military heavy driver.


Equally likely, he's some local small-pond political type who got the
position because nobody else wanted it, but he figured it would look
good on his resumé on his advance to his ultimate goal of becoming
chairman of the local county board of supervisors.

But he's seen pictures of airplanes in a book. Once.
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Old August 29th 08, 05:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Dale Scroggins[_2_]
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?


"Steve Foley" wrote in message
...
"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less
densely populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport
systems need to be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to
meet with the members of our congressional delegation to see if something
can be done," he said at a news conference. "I do not believe under our
circumstances that experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as
training and solo flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's
naive for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".

Depends upon whether the approaches & departures of that airport meet the
definition of a "densely populated area" noted in 91.319(c). If the
Director gets an interpretation from a local FAA office that it is, then the
homebuilders in the area might want to examine their operation limitations.

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Old August 29th 08, 06:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

The report in today's paper.. (taken with 15 pounds of salt), the aircraft
had recently been approved for operations at the north Las Vegas Airport by
the FAA inspectors.

There was discussions at the airport with the local FSDO in 2006 about
restricting Phase 1 flying at the airport.
This aircraft had meet the restrictions imposed for initial flights, and was
approved for continued operations from VGT.

BT

Depends upon whether the approaches & departures of that airport meet the
definition of a "densely populated area" noted in 91.319(c). If the
Director gets an interpretation from a local FAA office that it is, then
the homebuilders in the area might want to examine their operation
limitations.



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Old August 29th 08, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

Steve Foley wrote:
"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".



Other dangerous flight this yahoo wants banned from urban areas,
"training and solo flights."
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Old August 29th 08, 07:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:42:43 GMT, Steve Foley wrote:

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


It's his ass, he's loolking to dump the problem out of range.
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Old August 29th 08, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

In article ,
Jeff wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:42:43 GMT, Steve Foley wrote:

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental
airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely
populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to
be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the
members
of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said
at
a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that
experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo
flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.'

Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's
naive
for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks".


It's his ass, he's loolking to dump the problem out of range.


Then, let his ass be fired -- or placed in charge of clearing the
streets of stray animals! Just get him the hell away from aviation!

Why not stsrt a petition in lark County to get him reassigned?

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