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Old February 9th 10, 06:34 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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george writes:

And as to 'situational awareness' there's an extremely large blind
spot in the modern sailplane right under the nose


A Cirrus isn't a sailplane. And a pilot with a blind spot needs to fly in such
a way that he makes allowances for his inability to see in that blind spot.
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Old February 9th 10, 06:36 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mike Ash writes:

It's trivial to imagine many other plausible explanations. The others
are not LIKELY, but there are tons of scenarios which are plausible.


Such as?

If they are not likely, why bother to imagine them? The purpose of an
accident investigation is to find the most probable cause for an accident, not
to find alternative but unlikely explanations that exonerate the pilot.
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Old February 9th 10, 11:55 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Do you mind helping me on the gramma here, Bug Dout... I'm not sure how to
read this in the correct context?? Thanks

Loek

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Don't forget that Loek is a former F-16 pilot


He's a current ass.



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Old February 9th 10, 05:17 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:

And as to 'situational awareness' there's an extremely large blind
spot in the modern sailplane right under the nose


A Cirrus isn't a sailplane. And a pilot with a blind spot needs to fly in such
a way that he makes allowances for his inability to see in that blind spot.


All real airplanes have a large blind spot through an arc that starts at
the nose, follows the fuselage around to the tail, and continues over the
airplane to the rearmost window or top of the windscreen depending on
model.


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Old February 9th 10, 05:22 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

Mike Ash writes:

It's trivial to imagine many other plausible explanations. The others
are not LIKELY, but there are tons of scenarios which are plausible.


Such as?


Such as, Cirrus pilot had a heart attack thirty seconds before, Cirrus
had an engine failure, Cirrus hit large bird whose entrails covered the
forward view, etc.

If they are not likely, why bother to imagine them? The purpose of an
accident investigation is to find the most probable cause for an accident, not
to find alternative but unlikely explanations that exonerate the pilot.


You said "plausible", not "relevant to the purpose of an accident
investigation".

Nice to see that you're still twisting out of every argument to make
yourself look good, but you forgot to do your usual excessive snipping
this time around.

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Old February 9th 10, 05:54 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mike Ash writes:

Such as, Cirrus pilot had a heart attack thirty seconds before, Cirrus
had an engine failure, Cirrus hit large bird whose entrails covered the
forward view, etc.


Possible, but not very probable. Why look for highly improbable explanations
when there is a very probable and plausible one (pilot error)?
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Old February 9th 10, 06:02 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

Mike Ash writes:

It's trivial to imagine many other plausible explanations. The others
are not LIKELY, but there are tons of scenarios which are plausible.


Such as?


Such as, Cirrus pilot had a heart attack thirty seconds before, Cirrus
had an engine failure, Cirrus hit large bird whose entrails covered the
forward view, etc.

If they are not likely, why bother to imagine them? The purpose of an
accident investigation is to find the most probable cause for an
accident, not
to find alternative but unlikely explanations that exonerate the pilot.


You said "plausible", not "relevant to the purpose of an accident
investigation".

Nice to see that you're still twisting out of every argument to make
yourself look good, but you forgot to do your usual excessive snipping
this time around.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon


Mike,
Please don't feed the trolls.
It is similar to mud wrestling with pigs.
Real pilots accept that it is better to avoid bad weather rather than
attempt to change it.

Happy landings,


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Old February 9th 10, 07:35 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Feb 9, 7:34*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
And as to 'situational awareness' there's an extremely large blind
spot in the modern sailplane right under the nose


A Cirrus isn't a sailplane. And a pilot with a blind spot needs to fly in such
a way that he makes allowances for his inability to see in that blind spot.

 




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