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Old March 7th 10, 09:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Mar 8, 8:30*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting
voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad.


How do you know that?
You have never been a pilot in command of a real aircraft in real
time..
You are a child who plays with toys and then pretends to know what
real pilots think and do...
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Old March 7th 10, 09:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
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WHAT FACTS DO YOU BASE MOTIVATION of the ATC controller on?


Facts? None of the interpretations of his actions are objectively verifiable.


And you fail to get that OTHER PILOTS WERE ON THE SAME
FREQUENCY. The interpretations of his actions are HIGHLY verifiable,
whereas your statements to the contrary are not, and only are your
OPINION. The FAA, NATCA, those other pilots, and that Delta State pilot
can EASILY say otherwise.

Some people think he saved her life, others don't. I think she would have
survived with or without his help. She didn't sound nearly as panicked or
incompetent as people insist that she was. In fact, I was surprised by how
un-upset she seemed after all the hype I had heard about the incident.


By all means. Please list those 'others' who don't think he
saved her life. We're all waiting with baited breath.

If you want to ask for facts, you need to be prepared to provide them as well.
In this case, the evaluation of what he did is necessarily and unavoidably
subjective.


Practice what you preach. Please provide your facts to state
otherwise.

Oh BTW, comforting voice from ATC is A TON of help in the real world
of FLYING. I talk from first hand experience!!!!!!!


Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting
voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad.


Things turned bad for this pilot. Things turned bad for the
other pilots who were saved by the controllers who won Archie Awards in
their respective regions. And since you weren't in the sky with the
pilot, nor were you not sitting in the cab or at the TRACON or at the
ARTCC, you can't say otherwise that ATC's help there wouldn't help
pilots in distress to make it and survive.

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Old March 7th 10, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC frequencies are not for chats or discussions.


Which regulations prohibit them?
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Old March 8th 10, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 7, 1:30*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:



Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the
comforting voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad.


WRONG!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!! and more WRONG!!!!

YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ MY EXPERIENCE DID YOU?????????????????

If you want to ask for facts, you need to be prepared to provide them as well.
In this case, the evaluation of what he did is necessarily and unavoidably
subjective.


I PROVIDED MY FACTS BASED ON FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. YOU HAVE PROVIDED
ZERO, NADA.

I WANT YOUR FACTS to show the controller did not help save a life (two
lives in this case).

If you plan to make an opinion OR EVEN APPEAR CREDIBLE, please provide
the sources of FACTS that support your opinion. You never talked to
the controller, you NEVER talked to the pilot did you???????????

It seems I hear the sound of crickets will be forthcoming from the
inaction of providing facts for Mx opinion support
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Old March 8th 10, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Logajan writes:

Which regulations prohibit them?


See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2.
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Old March 8th 10, 01:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes:

Which regulations prohibit them?


See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2.


First, this is not a regulation.

Second, it doesn't have "Sections", it has parts and chapters.

And, lastly, this is work instructions for operating air traffic facilities
and has nothing to do with pilots.


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Old March 8th 10, 04:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 7, 6:13*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes:
Which regulations prohibit them?


See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2.


There are 7 section 2's

What PAGE number does it say in the 448 page document what is
PROHIBITED to be said on frequency.

There are 31 occurrences of the word prohibited in the document of
which NONE say idle talk or chat is PROHIBITED that I can see.
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Old March 9th 10, 07:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:07:04 -0800 (PST), george wrote:

On Mar 8, 8:30*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting
voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad.


How do you know that?
You have never been a pilot in command of a real aircraft in real
time..
You are a child who plays with toys and then pretends to know what
real pilots think and do...


What do you call an idiot (you) who responds to a moron (him).

RetardoTeam.

A pair of diaper ****ting retards.
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Old March 9th 10, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 10, 7:50*am, Tiger Would wrote:

What do you call an idiot (you) who responds to a moron (him).



Have you stopped beating your wife ?
 




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