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Do controllers have a corollary of the PIC command authority, i.e. do
what's right to save lives even if it means breaking 7110? Such as when you issued vectors to your beer-offering pilot in distress on top? Mitch Gossman "Chip Jones" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I guess had he been above 10,000 you could have used the merging target provisions of the 7110.65? I guess I am not totally following you here, Joe. Besides the "radar identified" requirement for the traffic, the merging target provisions still put the onus on the pilot to request vectors for avoidance. I think I still would have ended up in an alert situation with this pair. Had I known that these aircraft were going to get so apparently close in the end without a visual, I would have vectored the Baron early in the interests of air safety (regardless of what the 7110 dictates) to avoid the alert. Hindsight and all that. :-) To further muddy the water, merging target procedures dictate that I issue traffic information to aircraft whose targets will merge (as in this event) *unless* the aircraft are separated by more than the appropriate vertical minima. In the class of airspace that this event occurred in (Class E), there are no formal vertical separation minima between IFR and VFR aircraft. Obviously there are several ways to interpret how this procedure does or does not apply had this scenario occurred above 10,000. Chip, ZTL ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Mitchell Gossman" wrote in message om... Do controllers have a corollary of the PIC command authority, i.e. do what's right to save lives even if it means breaking 7110? Such as when you issued vectors to your beer-offering pilot in distress on top? Yes, see subparagraph c. below: FAA Order 7110.65N Air Traffic Control Chapter 2. General Control Section 1. General 2-1-1. ATC SERVICE The primary purpose of the ATC system is to prevent a collision between aircraft operating in the system and to organize and expedite the flow of traffic. In addition to its primary function, the ATC system has the capability to provide (with certain limitations) additional services. The ability to provide additional services is limited by many factors, such as the volume of traffic, frequency congestion, quality of radar, controller workload, higher priority duties, and the pure physical inability to scan and detect those situations that fall in this category. It is recognized that these services cannot be provided in cases in which the provision of services is precluded by the above factors. Consistent with the aforementioned conditions, controllers shall provide additional service procedures to the extent permitted by higher priority duties and other circumstances. The provision of additional services is not optional on the part of the controller, but rather is required when the work situation permits. Provide air traffic control service in accordance with the procedures and minima in this order except when: a. A deviation is necessary to conform with ICAO Documents, National Rules of the Air, or special agreements where the U.S. provides air traffic control service in airspace outside the U.S. and its possessions or: NOTE- Pilots are required to abide by CFR's or other applicable regulations regardless of the application of any procedure or minima in this order. b. Other procedures/minima are prescribed in a letter of agreement, FAA directive, or a military document, or: NOTE- These procedures may include altitude reservations, air refueling, fighter interceptor operations, law enforcement, etc. REFERENCE- FAAO 7110.65, Procedural Letters of Agreement, Para 1-1-8. c. A deviation is necessary to assist an aircraft when an emergency has been declared. REFERENCE- FAAO 7110.65, Safety Alert, Para 2-1-6. FAAO 7110.65, Emergencies, Chapter 10. FAAO 7110.65, Merging Target Procedures, Para 5-1-8. |
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