If all midair collisions were eliminated...

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John Smith wrote:
The total accident deaths per year in the US is only around 38,000.

Only?

One does have to consider how man person-hours are spent driving...

No, one does not have to. 38,000 deaths are an awful lot, period.

Yes, one does have to if you want to talk about possible prevention.

If you just want to mourn the dead, then 1 death is too many.

Somebody who uses the word "only" when he talks about 38,000 deaths is
an idiot, period. There's nothing to relativise here.

Of course there is, that is a death rate of about 0.01%, which is a
trivial rate.

And if you want to talk about possible prevention, you have to talk about
rates.


--
Jim Pennino

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Exactly. But then some people might be forced to admit that wasting
lifetimes does not save lives--it wastes lives.

Peter

In article ,
John Smith wrote:

Am 16.02.10 00:25, schrieb Alan Baker:
The total accident deaths per year in the US is only around 38,000.

Only?

One does have to consider how man person-hours are spent driving...

No, one does not have to. 38,000 deaths are an awful lot, period.

Over 150,000 people die every day. Is that tragic? No.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

On Feb 15, 3:19*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:21:23 -0800 (PST), terry

wrote:

Hmmmm...

OK.. *first sentence of his first post referrs to the 27 potential
lives saved based on the OP's post....

Second post *referrs to the potential of increased training etc.
reducing the deaths..

I am OK with that.

His motivation? *Who really knows? And it does not really matter to
me.

What is _my_ motivation for even being here? *To offer insight, to
learn from others? To "stirr the pot"? To offer news? To ask a
question?

Does anyone out there really care what MY motivaton is?

Actually, my motivation varies, - right now, its Sunday AM, cold
outside, I worked late last night installing a door, and have some
time on my hands, now and for the next 45 minutes.

(Sorry, best I can do for this session) *

Does MY motivaton really matter to anybody?

.....and I have quoted from books in my posts here as well... *to get
feedback on the content, or to question the *content....

No doubt , some here will question *my motivation to defend MX, but I
have none other to comment on the entertainment value of the RESPONSES
his posts get, and I am not defending him at all.

My only comment is that I think that to blast *away with multible
cannons and machine guns at a gopher just because it popped it's head
out of the hole seems a little silly.. * (IMHO)

Who was that cartoon character anyway... "Yosemitie Sam" ? *The one
with the big hat, mouth and shotgun that blasted away at anything that
moved?

Long time ago, I guess my age and immaturity is showing... Buggs Bunny
Show ?



Cheers!

D





Dave
I *expressed a similar view of Mxs some years ago, much to my later
embarrassment when I found out what a jerk he really was. *Of course
much of what he says is accurate, because he will read stuff straight
out of a book and post it here to try and get an argument going, or to
sound like he actually knows what he is talking about. * To get an
idea of his modus operandi, *have a read of his first 2 posts in the
impossible turn thread, namely the first sentence in each, and tell me
what you think his motivation for posting is.
Terry
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I think you missed my point Dave. The first sentence of his first
post is " I dont understand the point of this story" and I dont have
a problem with that, but its asked in a way that makes him sound like
an innocent schoolboy wanting to learn something from the experts ( or
at least those with some practical knowledge) But then as soon as
he gets a response from real pilots, he suddenly becomes the expert
and goes into the I know better than you mode. Note first sentence in
next post " The point of this presentation is to attract
viewers" so how did he suddenly understand? I dont question your
motivation to defend Mxs at all , as I have admitted previously I have
done the same. He will bite your hand eventually.
Terry

Alan Baker writes:

Over 150,000 people die every day. Is that tragic? No.

That depends on how close you are to the people dying.

In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

Alan Baker writes:

Over 150,000 people die every day. Is that tragic? No.

That depends on how close you are to the people dying.

The overall fact isn't tragic. It's just the way the world is.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

In article ,
says...

John Smith wrote:
The total accident deaths per year in the US is only around 38,000.

Only?

One does have to consider how man person-hours are spent driving...

No, one does not have to. 38,000 deaths are an awful lot, period.

Yes, one does have to if you want to talk about possible prevention.

If you just want to mourn the dead, then 1 death is too many.

Somebody who uses the word "only" when he talks about 38,000 deaths is
an idiot, period. There's nothing to relativise here.

Of course there is, that is a death rate of about 0.01%, which is a
trivial rate.

And if you want to talk about possible prevention, you have to talk about
rates.

Indeed - it's a political / money - thing - at the end of the day (but
not to us citizens!

--
Duncan.

Alan Baker writes:

The overall fact isn't tragic. It's just the way the world is.

True. Most people are unable to retain that objectivity when people close to
them die, however ... or when people die in situations in which they could
imagine themselves.

In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

Alan Baker writes:

The overall fact isn't tragic. It's just the way the world is.

True. Most people are unable to retain that objectivity when people close to
them die, however ... or when people die in situations in which they could
imagine themselves.

True.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

Dave Doe wrote:
In article ,
says...

John Smith wrote:
The total accident deaths per year in the US is only around 38,000.

Only?

One does have to consider how man person-hours are spent driving...

No, one does not have to. 38,000 deaths are an awful lot, period.

Yes, one does have to if you want to talk about possible prevention.

If you just want to mourn the dead, then 1 death is too many.

Somebody who uses the word "only" when he talks about 38,000 deaths is
an idiot, period. There's nothing to relativise here.

Of course there is, that is a death rate of about 0.01%, which is a
trivial rate.

And if you want to talk about possible prevention, you have to talk about
rates.

Indeed - it's a political / money - thing - at the end of the day (but
not to us citizens!

It is cost/benefit analysis and we all do it all the time, especially as
pilots.

Trivial example: Do you wear a helmet at all times of just when engaged
in an activity with an increased chance of a head injury?


--
Jim Pennino

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ple says...


One does have to consider how man person-hours are spent driving...

No, one does not have to. 38,000 deaths are an awful lot, period.



About the same number of people in the US commit suicide.

Strangely enough 38000 is also roughly identical to the number of peole
who die per day in the US...

But last I looked this newsgroup was about airplanes, homebuilts etc.
Not about carcrashes nor its toll. That's statistics and with that tool
it is perfectly proveable that Earth is flat.

Tom De Moor