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CFII question...
Does a CFII have to be instrument current to give instrument instruction in VFR
conditions? Just curious...and I don't have a set-O-regs handy at the moment otherwise I'd get off my lazy butt and look it up. Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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FAR 61.57 says: "(c) Instrument experience. Except as provided in paragraph
(e) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command under IFR or in weather conditions less than the minimums prescribed for VFR, unless within the preceding 6 calendar months, that person has ..." Pretty straightforward. Even in VMC (VFR conditions) if you accept an IFR clearance, you must be current. If you give instrument dual in VMC and do not accept an IFR clearance, no instrument currency is required. If you are training an instrument student for an instrument rating, remember that FAR 61.65 requires that the 'long' instrument cross country be accomplished under IFR - not necessarily under IMC, but under IFR.. Therefore, for that portion of instrument training for an instrument rating, the CFII must be instrument current as that particular flight must be performed under an IFR clearance. Tailwinds. -Antique Examiner "Ditch" wrote in message ... Does a CFII have to be instrument current to give instrument instruction in VFR conditions? Just curious...and I don't have a set-O-regs handy at the moment otherwise I'd get off my lazy butt and look it up. Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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If you give instrument dual in VMC and do
not accept an IFR clearance, no instrument currency is required. Thank you...that's all I needed to know. -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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"Ditch" wrote in message ... Does a CFII have to be instrument current to give instrument instruction in VFR conditions? Just curious...and I don't have a set-O-regs handy at the moment otherwise I'd get off my lazy butt and look it up. Thanks... A CFII doesn't need to be instrument current to give instruction at all. Instrument currency is only required if he need to be PIC in instrument conditions. |
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Ron:
There is one little legal catch that makes currency an issue: You must be current to file and receive an IFR clearance, regardless of the WX conditions and the instruction required for the IFR dual cross country must be given under an IFR clearance, but not necessarily instrument conditions. On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:24:15 -0500, "Ron Natalie" wrote: "Ditch" wrote in message ... Does a CFII have to be instrument current to give instrument instruction in VFR conditions? Just curious...and I don't have a set-O-regs handy at the moment otherwise I'd get off my lazy butt and look it up. Thanks... A CFII doesn't need to be instrument current to give instruction at all. Instrument currency is only required if he need to be PIC in instrument conditions. |
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"Bill Zaleski" wrote in message ... Ron: There is one little legal catch that makes currency an issue: You must be current to file and receive an IFR clearance, regardless of the WX conditions and the instruction required for the IFR dual cross country must be given under an IFR clearance, but not necessarily instrument conditions. Correct, shlould have said PIC under IFR. You want to be excessively pedantic, even an IFR clearance isn't required. You can operate IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a clearance. The point I was trying to make is that instrument currency is a function of being PIC not giving an instruction. I've got a friend who's an instructor but can't be PIC (no medical). I can get all sorts of instruction from him, but nothing that requires him to adopt the PIC role. |
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... "Bill Zaleski" wrote in message ... Ron: There is one little legal catch that makes currency an issue: You must be current to file and receive an IFR clearance, regardless of the WX conditions and the instruction required for the IFR dual cross country must be given under an IFR clearance, but not necessarily instrument conditions. Correct, shlould have said PIC under IFR. You want to be excessively pedantic, even an IFR clearance isn't required. You can operate IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a clearance. The point I was trying to make is that instrument currency is a function of being PIC not giving an instruction. I've got a friend who's an instructor but can't be PIC (no medical). I can get all sorts of instruction from him, but nothing that requires him to adopt the PIC role. I should further point out that not only can't he be PIC, he can't be safety pilot either, which cuts out the opportunity for him to be safety pilot as well. He could give instruction in IMC (provided the student acts as PIC), but he can't give insturment instruction to a student under the hood. |
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Ron Natalie wrote:
"Ditch" wrote in message ... Does a CFII have to be instrument current to give instrument instruction in VFR conditions? Just curious...and I don't have a set-O-regs handy at the moment otherwise I'd get off my lazy butt and look it up. Thanks... A CFII doesn't need to be instrument current to give instruction at all. Instrument currency is only required if he need to be PIC in instrument conditions. Instrument conditions, or just PIC on an IFR flight plan? Matt |
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Bill Zaleski wrote
There is one little legal catch that makes currency an issue: You must be current to file and receive an IFR clearance, regardless of the WX conditions and the instruction required for the IFR dual cross country must be given under an IFR clearance, but not necessarily instrument conditions. As usual with many members of this NG, Ron has chosen his words to reflect the letter of the law, not so much to clearify the issue. A PIC under IFR could concievably be in a non-control seat in the airplane. Bob Moore |
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