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On Feb 6, 5:28*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:01*am, Mottley wrote: On Feb 5, 11:08*pm, Richard wrote: The new Naviter Oudie PNA device with preinstalled See You Mobile for PNA scheduled be available in April. To preorder see http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm $650 includes See You Mobile PNA Richardwww.craggyaero.com Hi Could we get some more precise details on the Hardware ports on the Unit? which port for power input? which port for RS232 communication? Is there a single cable to connect to 302 for power and data? will varios which have 5v output (like302) be sufficent to drive the unit? Will the unit also have Connect Me installed and will it work through the RS232 connection or only Bluetooth? What is the screen brightness, is it backlight and is it transflective?? These would be my questions before purchasing this unit. I know they are all available in the Ultimate but I just consider that screen to large for Cockpit mounting. Many thanks Bruno The screen is a standard transflective LCD. All current consumer portable device color LCD screens are transflective, we've had this come up here before... the exception will be the switchable mode LCD displays from Pixel Qi, but they are not shipping yet. So this PNA display is likely no better daylight readable than most other screens although the 5 inch size (slightly larger than other PDA/PNA) and relatively low resolution (i.e. default larger font sizes that some other PDA/PNA) may make it easier than some others to read in daylight. For other things can look up the specs for the underlying PNA device which appears to be the Galilleo. (An interesting name choice for a GPS based device). e.g. seehttp://www.armatexx.eu/consumerelectronics/product_info.php?info=p281... (but note slight packaging differences between the pictures here and the Naviter Oudie). I'm not sure I understand the business model of reselling generic PNA or PDA devices into the soaring market. *Hopefully there is value add in here somewhere (beyond pre-installing SeeYou Mobile?). Maybe Richard can clarify what the differences are with the Oudie. In this day of high resolution/high pixel density capacitive touchscreen devices and emerging interesting display technology I am hoping we'll see much better consumer electronics based devices appearing that will make interesting platforms for soaring software. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) they seem less and less likely to be Windows CE/Windows Mobile based. My money is on Android as the next interesting source of low cost/high performance consumer electronics/ economics driven platforms. Anything iPhone/iPod/iPad based is uninteresting at the moment until the software platform is a bit more open (e.g. starting with bluetooth serial profile support, etc. as I've mentioned here before). Darryl- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Darryl, I believe the serial port input is also a value of the Oudie and the fact that See You will run in portrait with out the hacking required on most other devices. Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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Hi
Thanks for all your replies regarding my questions My opinion is that unless the RS232 Communication and Power supply (and recharging of internal battery) IS PROVEN TO BE WORKING WITH A SINGLE CABLE through the mini USB Port directly from a Vario there is not much advantage of this unit against many other similar PNA Units on the market. I see no transflective in the specification it is just a very good backlight which will be washed out by direct sunlight but which is good if the screen is tilted away from the sunlight.(same as HP314) Still waiting for units with either Pixel Qi or Qualcomms "Mirasol" screensto come on the market. Bruno |
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Hi Bruno,
I guess time will tell how good it is in sunlight. My guess is that it will be better than any other PDA or PNA (other than perhaps the AV8OR). I think it is a good price/performance compromise. I'm confident that we will have single cable solutions available for connection to any soaring instrument. Best Regards, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. "Mottley" wrote in message ... Hi Thanks for all your replies regarding my questions My opinion is that unless the RS232 Communication and Power supply (and recharging of internal battery) IS PROVEN TO BE WORKING WITH A SINGLE CABLE through the mini USB Port directly from a Vario there is not much advantage of this unit against many other similar PNA Units on the market. I see no transflective in the specification it is just a very good backlight which will be washed out by direct sunlight but which is good if the screen is tilted away from the sunlight.(same as HP314) Still waiting for units with either Pixel Qi or Qualcomms "Mirasol" screensto come on the market. Bruno |
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Is the mount internally wired with no connector sticking out, and
compatible with a RAM arm or gooseneck from the instrument panel? I have a $70 Navigon PNA for portable use. It's a bit clumsy for a permanent installation. Suction cups and external wires both invite problems. Jim |
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On Feb 6, 1:48*pm, JS wrote:
* Is the mount internally wired with no connector sticking out, and compatible with a RAM arm or gooseneck from the instrument panel? * I have a $70 Navigon PNA for portable use. It's a bit clumsy for a permanent installation. Suction cups and external wires both invite problems. Jim Jim Nope, it is a PNA with usual external cables etc. Darryl |
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Hi Jim,
Good questions. The cradle and suction cup mount provided with the Oudie does not have a built-in connector for the Oudie. It is a simple and lightweight cradle designed for use in a car. To be honest, I don't recommend using using the provided suction cup mount on a glider canopy because the suction cup has a lever which can pull more suction than I want on a $5000 glider canopy. I have seen glider canopies "dimple in" to similar suction cups. I fear that it will cause crazing over time. It is designed for use on a glass auto window. I do sell a nice RAM rubber suction cup that I do recommend for glider canopies. I use it often myself and it doesn't deform the canopy. The cradle provided with the Oudie is not designed to mount to a RAM arm, but it is probably possible to file off a few parts, drill and countersink a few holes and use beveled screws to mount it to a RAM arm or the gooseneck arms I sell. It is a nice lightweight cradle. But I'm not sure it is worth the effort. I sell a nice RAM-HOL-PD2 cradle that works great with the Oudie and with all RAM arms and the GNeck2 goosenecks I sell. The good news is that the power/data connector is a miniUSB connector. miniUSB connectors are much more robust than the fragile connectors found on all iPAQs. miniUSB connectors don't have a positive lock (they don't click into place) but I have not heard any complaints of cables falling out of iPAQ 310 units - which also use miniUSB connectors for power and data connections. I like that the Oudie has only one rugged data/power connector. I like that it is located on the bottom of the unit. Best Regards, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JS" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Naviter Oudie Should be Available in April 2010 Is the mount internally wired with no connector sticking out, and compatible with a RAM arm or gooseneck from the instrument panel? I have a $70 Navigon PNA for portable use. It's a bit clumsy for a permanent installation. Suction cups and external wires both invite problems. Jim |
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