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next gen standard class?
Are any of the major manufacturers looking into making next generation models for the standard class?
is there even much room left for developement here? what could really be improved? fuselages and tails seem more or less set, and any tinkering with wing planform and angle of incidence involves trading off either low or highspeed performance, with no overall gain compared to current designs at different wingloadings. As i see it, the only real improvements available are in the wing root area(like on the new JS-1), and possibly thinner wing sections. but given the wide range of CL these unflapped wings have to work at i imagine that it is harder to make a thinner section work than on a flapped ship. what do you think/know? |
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On Feb 3, 5:24*am, ric375 wrote:
Are any of the major manufacturers looking into making next generation models for the standard class? is there even much room left for developement here? what could really be improved? fuselages and tails seem more or less set, and any tinkering with wing planform and angle of incidence involves trading off either low or highspeed performance, with no overall gain compared to current designs at different wingloadings. As i see it, the only real improvements available are in the wing root area(like on the new JS-1), and possibly thinner wing sections. but given the wide range of CL these unflapped wings have to work at i imagine that it is harder to make a thinner section work than on a flapped ship. what do you think/know? -- ric375 Why would they do this, when nobody buys standard class ? The only gliders being sold and built are 18-meter or bigger. See ya, Dave "YO electric" (20m, or with the short tips 18m) |
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On Feb 3, 6:24*am, ric375 wrote:
Are any of the major manufacturers looking into making next generation models for the standard class? is there even much room left for developement here? what could really be improved? fuselages and tails seem more or less set, and any tinkering with wing planform and angle of incidence involves trading off either low or highspeed performance, with no overall gain compared to current designs at different wingloadings. As i see it, the only real improvements available are in the wing root area(like on the new JS-1), and possibly thinner wing sections. but given the wide range of CL these unflapped wings have to work at i imagine that it is harder to make a thinner section work than on a flapped ship. what do you think/know? -- ric375 There are plenty of gliders available on the used market to satisfy the need. Additionally, the segment of the market who can "justify" a new glider are the ones quite well off where the higher price for 18m glider isn't as much an issue. It would be pretty hard to do a glider that would obsolete the LS-8 , D2, ASW-28 group of gliders. FWIW UH |
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next gen standard class?
On Feb 3, 7:12*am, wrote:
It would be pretty hard to do a glider that would obsolete the LS-8 , D2, ASW-28 group of gliders... Except, of course, to offer a comparable glider that costs a lot less to buy, maintain, and operate... |
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next gen standard class?
On Feb 3, 10:43*am, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 3, 7:12*am, wrote: It would be pretty hard to do a glider that would obsolete the LS-8 , D2, ASW-28 group of gliders... Except, of course, to offer a comparable glider that costs a lot less to buy, maintain, and operate... Can you say homebuilt- Yes you can. Quit writin' and get back to work on the HP-24! UH |
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On Feb 3, 9:18*am, wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:43*am, Bob Kuykendall wrote: On Feb 3, 7:12*am, wrote: It would be pretty hard to do a glider that would obsolete the LS-8 , D2, ASW-28 group of gliders... Except, of course, to offer a comparable glider that costs a lot less to buy, maintain, and operate... Can you say homebuilt- Yes you can. Quit writin' and get back to work on the HP-24! UH The HP-24 is gonna be a pretty cool glider...............I was sitting in the cockpit just the other day laying out my instrument panel! Brad |
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next gen standard class?
Speaking of which, do you guys have any estimates as to when the
initial flight testing might begin? I've been following your progress on the HP24 website with much interest. What you're doing is very cool! On Feb 3, 11:36*am, Brad wrote: On Feb 3, 9:18*am, wrote: On Feb 3, 10:43*am, Bob Kuykendall wrote: On Feb 3, 7:12*am, wrote: It would be pretty hard to do a glider that would obsolete the LS-8 , D2, ASW-28 group of gliders... Except, of course, to offer a comparable glider that costs a lot less to buy, maintain, and operate... Can you say homebuilt- Yes you can. Quit writin' and get back to work on the HP-24! UH The HP-24 is gonna be a pretty cool glider...............I was sitting in the cockpit just the other day laying out my instrument panel! Brad |
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On Feb 3, 11:25*am, Westbender wrote:
Speaking of which, do you guys have any estimates as to when the initial flight testing might begin? We're closing the first set of wings in just a few weeks, so maybe we can have one flying this year. We'll be starting a batch of parts for the next two ships after that wingset is closed and delivered. Thanks, Bob K. |
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