PW-5's can't even win in their own class!

Check out the cumulative results for the "Sports-PW5" class in NZ:

http://glidingmatamata.co.nz/competi...sports-pw5.htm

Priceless.

In article ,
(Liam Finley) wrote:

Check out the cumulative results for the "Sports-PW5" class in NZ:

http://glidingmatamata.co.nz/competi...sports-pw5.htm

Priceless.

I don't understand your point and I don't think you do either.

This is not "the PW5's own class". It is the "sports" class, which is a
handicapped contest in which a PW5 gets its nominal score while a K6 has
its task time reduced by a few percent in order to make it possible for
any glider in the contest to win, depending on pilot skill rather than
the type of glider flown. Which is exactly what is happening.

-- Bruce

In your cups again eh Liam? Perhaps you should wait until tomorrow
after the hangover has past and then give it a bit more thought why
don't ye?

(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com...
Check out the cumulative results for the "Sports-PW5" class in NZ:

http://glidingmatamata.co.nz/competi...sports-pw5.htm

Priceless.

(JohnD) wrote in message . com...
In your cups again eh Liam? Perhaps you should wait until tomorrow
after the hangover has past and then give it a bit more thought why
don't ye?


Funny, if a buddy of mine told me he was considering buying a peewee,
that's exactly what I would say to him.

Priceless?
Look at last year's US World Class Nationals results, Sebastian Kawa
took a second place after missing 2 days of the contest (and he missed
the first place by millimeters) - learning of how to fly the Pw-5
that's priceless!

The sad part.
There are 23 PW 5 s here in NZ.
22 of those reside in the North Island. A half days drive from Matamata ( at
the most ) where the contest was held.
Only 4 fronted up.



"Liam Finley" wrote in message
om...
Check out the cumulative results for the "Sports-PW5" class in NZ:

http://glidingmatamata.co.nz/competi...sports-pw5.htm

Priceless.

In article ,
"Paul" wrote:
The sad part.
There are 23 PW 5 s here in NZ.
22 of those reside in the North Island. A half days drive from Matamata ( at
the most ) where the contest was held.
Only 4 fronted up.

That does seem sad -- I remember having a lot more than that at the PW5
nationals I attended in Masterton a couple of years back.

I was at least quadruple booked with non-work things to do last week:

- PW5 nats

- Wellington Gliding club camp at Kauwhata

- invitation to stay at friends' bach

- organizing and attending 2nd International Dylan Hacker's
Conference (http://www.gwydiondylan.org/dhc2004.phtml)

I don't know what anyone else's excuse was :-)

-- Bruce

As a former PW owner I've got to point out that a PW5 won the Sports class
in US Region 9 last year. Won by 349 points.
They are what they are.
They do what a pilot can coax them to do.

Brent

"The concept of a World Class is excellent. We just
need to switch these Polish flashes of brilliance for
a proper glider."

As there is no shortage of LS 4s, Discus, DG 300s all you would need to do
is name the World class glider of choice. ( if you have the nerve :-). The
Discus is already made in the " Eastern Block " As well as the DG 303 but
they sure don't come at a price that is going to assist the world class
buyer. Where ever they are made they will end up being pricey. There are
enough gliders now to do the "one Class thing ". We don't need a new design
or cheaper gliders. We need to get pilots to show at the contests with
whatever the glider is. What I was pointing out was not something lacking on
the PW 5 s part but on the whole package. Are the contests fun?
Do the owners/pilots of the PW 5s feel like going? Have they being invited?
Would it be any different if they all owned LS 4 s or 8s? Weather a factor?
Time of year?

Paul

In article ,
Paul wrote:
"The concept of a World Class is excellent. We just
need to switch these Polish flashes of brilliance for
a proper glider."

As there is no shortage of LS 4s, Discus, DG 300s all you would need to do
is name the World class glider of choice. ( if you have the nerve :-). The
Discus is already made in the " Eastern Block " As well as the DG 303 but
they sure don't come at a price that is going to assist the world class
buyer. Where ever they are made they will end up being pricey. There are
enough gliders now to do the "one Class thing ". We don't need a new design
or cheaper gliders. We need to get pilots to show at the contests with
whatever the glider is. What I was pointing out was not something lacking on
the PW 5 s part but on the whole package. Are the contests fun?
Do the owners/pilots of the PW 5s feel like going? Have they being invited?
Would it be any different if they all owned LS 4 s or 8s? Weather a factor?
Time of year?

Paul

One wonders if the Sparrowhawk would make it as a world class glider.
Certainly it has much in common with the PW-5 and Russia
(light weight, short wings, easy rigging, better polar but
close, fixed gear, no flaps).

The price would be a slight issue (perhaps in volume it
could go back below $20K). Also maybe that it would be
hard to duplicate elsewhere...

But a nice thought...