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Old August 13th 11, 12:50 AM
drumflyer drumflyer is offline
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Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and used to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England. I've been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about the commercial glider rating. The SSA states:

Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a written FAA examination, hold a Private Pilot license with 25 hours of flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or a total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft including 20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights training in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight test.

Does that mean that one must have a medical? What confuses me is that everywhere else it says Private Pilot-Glider. Am I looking to much into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for the different add-ons? The way I've interpreted it is that you do not need a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. If someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple yes or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt
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Old August 13th 11, 02:28 AM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drumflyer View Post
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and used to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England. I've been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about the commercial glider rating. The SSA states:

Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a written FAA examination, hold a Private Pilot license with 25 hours of flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or a total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft including 20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights training in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight test.

Does that mean that one must have a medical? What confuses me is that everywhere else it says Private Pilot-Glider. Am I looking to much into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for the different add-ons? The way I've interpreted it is that you do not need a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. If someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple yes or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt
I did a commercial glider add on to a commercial power license and I have no medical. One is not required for any glider rating including instructor. We self certify that we are ready to fly.

Walt
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Old August 13th 11, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
T[_2_]
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Default Commercial Glider Rating

On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England. *I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:

Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight test.

Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt

--
drumflyer


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.

If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.

T
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Old August 13th 11, 03:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
T[_2_]
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Default Commercial Glider Rating

On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:





Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England. *I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:


Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight test.


Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt


--
drumflyer


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.

If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.

T


Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T
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Old August 13th 11, 02:12 PM
drumflyer drumflyer is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T[_2_] View Post
On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:





Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England. *I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:


Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight test.


Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt


--
drumflyer


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.

If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.

T


Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T


Yes, it is Sport Pilot-Airplane...here I am talking about specific wording and I wasn't even clear myself. Thanks for your replies I appreciate it!
-Matt
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Old August 14th 11, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
T[_2_]
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Posts: 187
Default Commercial Glider Rating

On Aug 13, 6:12*am, drumflyer
wrote:
'T[_2_ Wrote:





;780159']On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:-
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:


-
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and
used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England.
*I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about
the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:-
-
Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours
of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or
a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft
including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights
training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight
test.-
-
Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is
that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for
the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not
need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple
yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt-
-
--
drumflyer-


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.


If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.


T-


Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T


Yes, it is Sport Pilot-Airplane...here I am talking about specific
wording and I wasn't even clear myself. *Thanks for your replies I
appreciate it!
-Matt

--
drumflyer


I just reread 61.123(h), it does say you must hold must have at least
a private pilot certificate. Does not specify in which aircraft. You
may have to complete a private glider certificate before you can
complete the commercial rating.
T
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Old August 14th 11, 01:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
S. Murry
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Default Commercial Glider Rating

Unless you have military flight time, you will need to obtain a Private
Pilot's certificate before getting your commercial. This PP certificate
can be in any category and class. For example, you could get a private
ASEL, then go to commercial glider. But you must have a private pilot's
license in SOME category before getting the commercial-glider.

In order to obtain the PP certificate, you MAY need a medical (depending
on the requirements for the category for which you intend to get the PP
certificate). However, a medical is NOT required for glider category
ratings, so if you decide to get your private-glider, then
commercial-glider, you will not need a medical.

--Stefan Murry
CFI-G


On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:44:30 -0500, T wrote:

On Aug 13, 6:12 am, drumflyer
wrote:
'T[_2_ Wrote:





;780159']On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:-
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:


-
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and
used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England.
*I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about
the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:-
-
Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours
of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or
a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft
including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights
training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight
test.-
-
Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is
that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for
the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not
need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple
yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt-
-
--
drumflyer-


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.


If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.


T-


Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T


Yes, it is Sport Pilot-Airplane...here I am talking about specific
wording and I wasn't even clear myself. Thanks for your replies I
appreciate it!
-Matt

--
drumflyer


I just reread 61.123(h), it does say you must hold must have at least
a private pilot certificate. Does not specify in which aircraft. You
may have to complete a private glider certificate before you can
complete the commercial rating.
T



--
Stefan Murry
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Old August 14th 11, 01:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cookie
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Default Commercial Glider Rating

On Aug 13, 8:17*pm, "S. Murry" wrote:
Unless you have military flight time, you will need to obtain a Private *
Pilot's certificate before getting your commercial. *This PP certificate *
can be in any category and class. *For example, you could get a private *
ASEL, then go to commercial glider. *But you must have a private pilot's *
license in SOME category before getting the commercial-glider.

In order to obtain the PP certificate, you MAY need a medical (depending *
on the requirements for the category for which you intend to get the PP *
certificate). *However, a medical is NOT required for glider category *
ratings, so if you decide to get your private-glider, then *
commercial-glider, you will not need a medical.

--Stefan Murry
CFI-G





On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:44:30 -0500, T wrote:
On Aug 13, 6:12 am, drumflyer
wrote:
'T[_2_ Wrote:


;780159']On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:-
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:


-
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and
used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England.
*I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about
the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:-
-
Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours
of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or
a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft
including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights
training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight
test.-
-
Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is
that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for
the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not
need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple
yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt-
-
--
drumflyer-


I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.


If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.


T-


Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T


Yes, it is Sport Pilot-Airplane...here I am talking about specific
wording and I wasn't even clear myself. *Thanks for your replies I
appreciate it!
-Matt


--
drumflyer


I just reread 61.123(h), it does say you must hold must have at least
a private pilot certificate. Does not specify in which aircraft. You
may have to complete a private glider certificate before you can
complete the commercial rating.
T


--
Stefan Murry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


It is possible to get a private glider certificate, and then later the
same day, the commercial glider certificate, if you pass the
tests.........I don't know if any instructors would give the sign offs
for that, or if any examiners would do the two tests...

Cookie

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Old August 15th 11, 05:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Schumann
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Default Commercial Glider Rating

On 8/13/2011 7:17 PM, S. Murry wrote:
Unless you have military flight time, you will need to obtain a Private
Pilot's certificate before getting your commercial. This PP certificate
can be in any category and class. For example, you could get a private
ASEL, then go to commercial glider. But you must have a private pilot's
license in SOME category before getting the commercial-glider.

In order to obtain the PP certificate, you MAY need a medical (depending
on the requirements for the category for which you intend to get the PP
certificate). However, a medical is NOT required for glider category
ratings, so if you decide to get your private-glider, then
commercial-glider, you will not need a medical.

--Stefan Murry
CFI-G


On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:44:30 -0500, T wrote:

On Aug 13, 6:12 am, drumflyer
wrote:
'T[_2_ Wrote:





;780159']On Aug 12, 6:45*pm, T wrote:-
On Aug 12, 4:50*pm, drumflyer
wrote:

-
Hi everyone, I'm currently a sport pilot with no other licenses and
used
to fly gliders a little as a kid when I was stationed in England.
*I've
been thinking of getting my glider rating but had a question about
the
commercial glider rating. *The SSA states:-
-
Commercial Pilots-Glider must be at least 18-years of age, pass a
written FAA examination, hold a *Private Pilot license* with 25 hours
of
flight time in gliders and 100 glider flights as pilot-in-command, or
a
total of 200 hours of flight time in heavier-than-air aircraft
including
20 glider flights as pilot-in-command, 3 hours or ten flights
training
in a glider, and five solo flights in a glider and pass a flight
test.-
-
Does that mean that one must have a medical? *What confuses me is
that
everywhere else it says Private Pilot-*Glider*. *Am I looking to much
into this and they just say private pilot license as a catch all for
the
different add-ons? *The way I've interpreted it is that you do not
need
a medical to fly as a commercial glider pilot, however sometimes you
seem to need to read between the lines when it comes to the FAA. *If
someone could give me some insight that would be great...or a simple
yes
or no will suffice
Thanks!
-Matt-
-
--
drumflyer-

I presume you have a Sport Pilot, Airplane rating.
You cannot go direct from sport pilot airplane to commercial glider,
unless yo have the prescribe hours in heavier than air, or light sport
aircraft. Complete a commercial glider written exam and complete a
glider practical exam check ride.

If you do not have the required power hours, you will need to complete
a private glider check ride first, accrue the required glider
experience for commercial, and the complete the required commercial
glider certificate requirements.

T-

Sorry, I should have added, you do not need a medical in the US.
T

Yes, it is Sport Pilot-Airplane...here I am talking about specific
wording and I wasn't even clear myself. Thanks for your replies I
appreciate it!
-Matt

--
drumflyer


I just reread 61.123(h), it does say you must hold must have at least
a private pilot certificate. Does not specify in which aircraft. You
may have to complete a private glider certificate before you can
complete the commercial rating.
T




Just because you have a Private Pilot Power license does not
automatically mean that you need a medical. A pilot with a Private SEL
license can fly a light sport aircraft without a medical.

--
Mike Schumann
  #10  
Old August 15th 11, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony V
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Default Commercial Glider Rating


Just because you have a Private Pilot Power license does not
automatically mean that you need a medical. A pilot with a Private SEL
license can fly a light sport aircraft without a medical.


Yes, *if* you did not fail your last medical.

Tony V.


 




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