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Why wait four "ytears"... you can take a good look at my ass today if you like.
Nemo l'Ancien wrote: See you in four ytears from now... And we 'll see your ass... |
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Jim Burns ) wrote:
Taxi to the ramp, I'm letting you out. PLONK! Someone's getting a pink slip, no doubt. -- Peter |
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Trent Moorehead wrote:
.... I used to think that Democrats were the type of people who were accepting of others, but I have seen over the last few years that they are not. I am a Democrat, but I voted for Bush. He's not perfect, but at least he's not a hypocrite. The liberal democrats I have direct experience with always boast that they are so tolerant and so pro-choice. This only applies to choice in abortions however, and they do NOT approve of choice when it comes to the following: 1) choice in whether or not someone desirec to own firearms (they are against that) 2) choice in education... they are against anything other than mandatory public schools 3) choice in placing your FICA taxes into anything other than the social [in]security 4) choice in health care... they ultimately want the government in charge of all health care options. I could mention more but what stir up the natives. |
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I absolutely agree with you, Jay. Yet again, I had to vote AGAINST a
candidate, rather than FOR one. I just thought Kerry was the least-bad candidate. When Bush opens his mouth, or just looks at the camera, for that matter, the back of my hair goes up. What thinking individual could vote FOR this idiot. I guess my version of the least-bad candidate was the same as only 49.9% of the rest of the country. Apparently you can fool 50% of the people, but there is always a noise function. -- Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love America "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:k_bid.351511$MQ5.252777@attbi_s52... These people are mad Kerry didn't run a liberal campaign and can't stand that he "was just as pro-war as Bush." That is SO ironic. If the Democrats has nominated a middle-of-the-road guy to run against Bush -- say, Dick Gephardt -- this election would not have even been close. The Democrats would have swept the nation, and never by less than 25 percentage points. Stupidly, they nominated a guy whose political positions were to the left of Ted Kennedy's, absolutely ensuring a Bush victory. There were many traditional Republicans out here -- myself included -- who would have voted for a conservative Democrat in this election. But there was just no way for any of us to vote for a guy like Kerry. The moral for the Democrats: Don't ever nominate an ultra liberal to run for president again. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"C Kingsbury" wrote in message nk.net... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:k_bid.351511$MQ5.252777@attbi_s52... ....snip... The moral for the Democrats: Don't ever nominate an ultra liberal to run for president again. Hillary Clinton. ....snip... My dream team is Giuliani-Rice. ...snip... It would be interesting to see if the (conservative) country is ready for a Woman in the White House, or even in the position of "heartbeat away". That's kind of a "liberal" concept, isn't it???... |
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Stupidly, they nominated a guy whose political positions were to the left
of Ted Kennedy's, absolutely ensuring a Bush victory. There were many traditional Republicans out here -- myself included -- who would have voted for a conservative Democrat in this election. But there was just no way for any of us to vote for a guy like Kerry. The moral for the Democrats: Don't ever nominate an ultra liberal to run for president again. I have often wondered how some people come to the conclusions that they do. Jay,,, for goodness sake you sound like you are a sock-puppet mouthing the words of his puppeteer (Bush - who was famous for the 'Kerry's just like T. Kennedy' line). Kerry was far left? How, where? If anything he was as centrist as Clinton was. You'd think he belonged to the Communist party to hear the prattle that is coming off of your tongue. Unlike the man whose words you mouth, Kerry didn't pull special favors to get into the National Guard to avoid the draft (he VOLUNTEERED for duty), Kerry was never arrested DUI, nor was he a cocaine user. While our boys were ducking bullets and embroiled in a hopeless conflict - Bush was having beer parties with the boys - occasionally remembering to show up for National Guard duty. Also, I'll bet you never even took the time to watch the footage of Kerry before the special hearing on Vietnam (which Bush would refer to often, without even citing a single in-context quote from) when Kerry spoke most eloquently without political bile of what was wrong with the Vietnam War and how it was a mistake. He did this AFTER having been there (something Bush in his petty cowardice, never did). He went there, saw how things were going and recognized that we (the US) had made a mistake. There wasn't a single misspoken word in his speech, back then (you see, unlike you, I took it upon myself to view all the footage of the hearing - before forming my opinions). Does integrity mean anything to you? I worry about a country where there are individuals that can be so easily molded with a political dogma and never bother to question or actively challenge the ideas that are being presented to them. I've voted for Democratic candidates, I've voted for Republican,,, you want to know why, Jay? Because it is the benefit for the country that counts not 'belonging to a club' and following their 'election charter' like some mindless automaton. Your candidate entered a war with an 'enemy' (Saddam) who had not attacked us while the fellow that directly attacked us is running around, comfortably making videos and apparently eating well. Bush claimed he was entering the war to save the people from his cruel tyranny - but what about the massive genocide that is going on in parts of Africa right now - I haven't heard a peep from Bush about that, or China's human rights violations, or North Korea's forming nuclear arsenal ---- Ooops,,,, wait,,,,, I get it now,,,,,,,, there is no OIL in Africa where innocents are being slaughtered every day,,, there is no OIL in North Korea.... Isn't it funny,,,, a president who is against stem cell research (which only the ignorant don't know) uses embryos and NOT fetuses, has BIG problems with using a frozen embryo that must be discarded after a certain length of time,,,, BUT he will NOT hesitate to sacrifice living, breathing, human beings in a war that had NO business being fought (I'm talking about Iraq here). So, he will put living human beings (including women and children involved in collateral damage from bombings that go astray) in body bags,,, but wait! Don't ya dare touch a frozen embryo in a 'cryogenics' freezer. Can YOU say , hypocrisy? God forbid, that you are your loved one needs medical aid that some new stem cell technology could offer. If there is any hope for our country, it will be when people learn to abandon their mindless following of party affiliation and do as I (and others) do; simply vote for the best man/woman for the job. But don't let intelligence or logic, pry you away from your blissful ignorance. I hope one day, people like you will learn to challenge and learn more about what they are told as fact FROM ANY SOURCE,,, then we will REALLY have a great Nation. A mind is truly a terrible thing to waste.......... -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL-IA Student - CP-ASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - |
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Pitiful.
"David Brooks" wrote in message ... One thing - one of so very many things - I learned in my five years of flying is that partisan politics does not fit into the cockpit. Most of my flight instructors have, I know, been to the right of me politically. I had a most enjoyable flight with CJ - although he has since earned my undying enmity by unapologetically using the term "Final Solution" in connection with me and people like me, an astonishing thought coming from an avowedly religious man, but telling and apt. But now it seems the nation has, albeit by a slim margin, re-elected a weak, hypocritical, murderous coward. Three years ago, when some writers on the left started talking about fascism, I thought that an absurd stretch. No longer. The parallels are not precise - they never are - but the broad sweep and many of the components of a new fascist state are in place. The 48% who didn't vote for this disaster keep knocking on my consciousness, but they are now feeble and impotent. The thugs are in charge. That being so, and despite what should be an apolitical setting, I can no longer in good faith keep company with a group of which the majority, I know, has elected to deliver the country I love, and chose as my home, into the hands of Bush and his repressive, regressive masters. So long. Thanks for all the conversations. You guys have made me a better pilot. -- David Brooks |
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"David Brooks" wrote in message ... That being so, and despite what should be an apolitical setting, I can no longer in good faith keep company with a group of which the majority, I know, has elected to deliver the country I love, and chose as my home, into the hands of Bush and his repressive, regressive masters. With all due respect, this is the easy way out. Stick with it and it`ll seem a bit better tomorrow and a bit better the next day. Time will heal your pain. I know what you are saying, but quitting is the cowardly thing to do. Stay here. Voice and defend your opinions. Many more may believe as you do, many may not. The point is that in life, you have to participate, no matter how ugly. Standing on the sidelines and bitching about the quarterback is no way to live a fulfilling and productive life. Come back soon. You will always be welcomed. Tien |
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Trent Moorehead wrote: I used to think that Democrats were the type of people who were accepting of others, They haven't been that for at least 50 years. |
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David -- The virtual door is always open when/if you choose to come back.
Best. Bob Clough "David Brooks" wrote in message ... One thing - one of so very many things - I learned in my five years of flying is that partisan politics does not fit into the cockpit. Most of my flight instructors have, I know, been to the right of me politically. I had a most enjoyable flight with CJ - although he has since earned my undying enmity by unapologetically using the term "Final Solution" in connection with me and people like me, an astonishing thought coming from an avowedly religious man, but telling and apt. But now it seems the nation has, albeit by a slim margin, re-elected a weak, hypocritical, murderous coward. Three years ago, when some writers on the left started talking about fascism, I thought that an absurd stretch. No longer. The parallels are not precise - they never are - but the broad sweep and many of the components of a new fascist state are in place. The 48% who didn't vote for this disaster keep knocking on my consciousness, but they are now feeble and impotent. The thugs are in charge. That being so, and despite what should be an apolitical setting, I can no longer in good faith keep company with a group of which the majority, I know, has elected to deliver the country I love, and chose as my home, into the hands of Bush and his repressive, regressive masters. So long. Thanks for all the conversations. You guys have made me a better pilot. -- David Brooks |
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