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Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.



 
 
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Old November 10th 05, 10:17 PM
tffy
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?

Thanks!

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Old November 10th 05, 10:28 PM
Anthony W
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

Check out the Honda four stroke personal watercraft engines. They're
powerful and designed to run at full load for extended lengths of time.
However, you'd have to use a reduction unit to get the RPM down low
enough to drive a prop.

Tony

tffy wrote:
This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?

Thanks!

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Old November 10th 05, 10:39 PM
Lakeview Bill
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

Why not just go with a Jabiru 2200?

A TBO of 2000 hours currently applies, with a top end TBO of 1000 hours. A
TBO of 2000 hours currently applies, with a top end TBO of 1000 hours.

Air cooled + no redrive = simple.

Reasonably priced.


"tffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?

Thanks!



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Old November 10th 05, 10:40 PM
Anthony W
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

I was wrong about those four stroke personal watercraft engines. The
Honda engine is rated at 137HP and the Yamaha engines are rated at 110
to 160HP. All of these are much bigger than you were looking for.

Tony

tffy wrote:
This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?

Thanks!

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Old November 10th 05, 10:46 PM
Rob Turk
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
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Why not just go with a Jabiru 2200?

A TBO of 2000 hours currently applies, with a top end TBO of 1000 hours. A
TBO of 2000 hours currently applies, with a top end TBO of 1000 hours.

Air cooled + no redrive = simple.

Reasonably priced.


Good suggestion! Should do very well for an ultralight.

Rob

(Ouch, someone mentioned Jabiru... I'm waiting in suspense for the response
of Bret L...)


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Old November 10th 05, 11:41 PM
tffy
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

Thanks for that suggestion, will check it out. Still looking for other
options out there though!

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Old November 11th 05, 12:09 AM
tom pettit
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

You should check out the Rotax 912. It is 80hp, four stroke, and weighs
about 125 pounds. It has a TBO of 1500 hours.

tom pettit


"tffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?

Thanks!



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Old November 11th 05, 12:13 AM
tffy
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

Thanks! There isn't anything 2-cylinder available in this power range
(or perhaps less, all the way down to 60hp), is there? The a/c
performance can afford to be somewhat anemic, while mounting space is
at a premium.

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Old November 11th 05, 12:16 AM
Vaughn
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.


"tffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
This is for a hypothetical ultralight design, so just looking for
suggestions here of where to look at... hopefully a 4-stroke, purchase
price doesn't matter much, certification status doesn't matter either.
Long time before overhaul matters A LOT... so, the longer the better.
Is there anything out there in the 80-hp range? How about a motorcycle
engine conversion - how long can those go before needing to be
overhauled?


Beemer? http://www.microlightsport.co.uk/Cat.../bmwengine.htm I have
spent thousands of hours riding on top of my BMW engine, and often thought that
I wouldn't mind flying behind one. That said, they have never been terribly
popular with homebuilders for some reason.

Vaughn


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Old November 11th 05, 12:19 AM
Jim Carriere
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Default Looking for a sub-100hp engine with long TBO time.

tffy wrote:
Thanks! There isn't anything 2-cylinder available in this power range
(or perhaps less, all the way down to 60hp), is there? The a/c
performance can afford to be somewhat anemic, while mounting space is
at a premium.


The most popular 2-cylinder in this range is the 65hp Rotax 582 (and its
big brother the 75hp 618), but these are two strokes with relatively
short TBO, two things you are trying to avoid. Besides, I don't think
the aircraft 618 is made anymore.
 




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