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Old April 21st 04, 01:28 AM
Matt Whiting
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Joe Young wrote:
"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By
religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose?

If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago.


One wonders why it's a question at all.


Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship?




If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast
majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case in a
democracy, shouldn't the majority rule?


The woman involved in getting abortion legalized has also opposed it for
many years and tried to get the ruling overturned. You don't hear much
about that either in the popular press.


Matt

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Old April 21st 04, 01:30 AM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
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Gene Seibel wrote:



Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well
got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree.
Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't
a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of
what I hear is new packaging for old ideas.


This has been true for at least 2000 years, at least with respect to
things involving people. Technology has advanced dramatically, but
people are pretty much the same as they were in Biblical times.


Human nature hasn't really changed in a lot longer than 2000 years.


I agree. That is why I said AT LEAST 2000 years.

Matt

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Old April 21st 04, 01:34 AM
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That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be
invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI."



You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI
at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of
modern technology come from?


Man, you just love the "Fallacy of the False Alternative", don't you?


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Old April 21st 04, 01:35 AM
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"Joe Young" wrote in message
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Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship?



If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast
majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case in

a
democracy, shouldn't the majority rule?


Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.


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Old April 21st 04, 01:36 AM
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Neither was taxation... sigh.



The Constitution does not provide for taxation?



No originally.

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Old April 21st 04, 01:44 AM
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Joe Young wrote:

Every poll shows the vast majority of the American public apposes
abortion. If that is the case in a democracy, shouldn't
the majority rule?


I'm not sure what polls you are reading, but here is a link that shows
the opposite, i.e. support for legal abortions at about 53 percent, and
opposition at 43 percent. They state this has been the trend for at
least the last decade.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Da...oll010702.html
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Old April 21st 04, 01:44 AM
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Joe Young" wrote in message
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Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship?



If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast
majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case

in
a
democracy, shouldn't the majority rule?


Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.


You know what... my absolutism was wrong. I don't have any idea what every
poll says. What I do know is every poll I have seen on late-term abortion
overwhelmingly apposes the practice, but we don't seem to have it outlawed
yet. I have also seen polls over the years that show the majority of
American appose the practice if exceptions are made for the life of the
mother and rape or incenst.....

Now are you sure each and every poll on the matter that you have seen shows
blanket, overwhelming support?




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Old April 21st 04, 01:53 AM
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Newps wrote:

So, federally, the question has to be answered.


Federally, it has been answered. And your State WILL toe the line if someone married
in California moves there and files suit in Federal court.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
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Old April 21st 04, 01:57 AM
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"James Robinson" wrote in message
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Joe Young wrote:

Every poll shows the vast majority of the American public apposes
abortion. If that is the case in a democracy, shouldn't
the majority rule?


I'm not sure what polls you are reading, but here is a link that shows
the opposite, i.e. support for legal abortions at about 53 percent, and
opposition at 43 percent. They state this has been the trend for at
least the last decade.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Da...oll010702.html


This one seems to have some different stats?????........??

http://christianparty.net/abortiongallup.htm

here is a interesting survey

http://www307.pair.com/ejs/plal1/surveys.htm

here is another...all found with a quick google search on abortion poll...

http://www.euthanasia.com/poll.html




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Old April 21st 04, 02:24 AM
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Joe Young wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

Joe Young wrote:

Every poll shows the vast majority of the American public apposes
abortion. If that is the case in a democracy, shouldn't
the majority rule?


I'm not sure what polls you are reading, but here is a link that shows
the opposite, i.e. support for legal abortions at about 53 percent, and
opposition at 43 percent. They state this has been the trend for at
least the last decade.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Da...oll010702.html


This one seems to have some different stats?????........??

http://christianparty.net/abortiongallup.htm


I prefer ABC news as a less biased source than an advocacy group, thank
you.
 




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