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Why couldn't it have been Mayor Daley??
With all the reports now coming out about how close that Cessna came to
getting smoked over Washington, it got me thinking. When the governor of Kentucky flew into D.C. in his King Air with a dead transponder, it caused all kinds of panic. Then the Cessna incident happened. If something like that occurred again, what are the chances that the next aircraft would be fired upon? Even if the laser warning device had been operating I doubt the guy in the 152 would have known what it meant anyhow. (If you're oblivious to an F-16 escort firing flares in front of you, maybe you don't belong in the air near the Capitol?) I read on AOPA's site that Chicago's Mayor Daley is whining about his city not having any Air Force fighter cover - as if Chicago really needs its own ADIZ... Funny how a guy that has proved himself anti-GA could be so interested in aviation now. Maybe if he hadn't torn up Meigs Field some military aircraft could be based there, even if it was just a few helos. Ultimate irony all pilots wish for: Daley gets smoked by CAP over his own city by a fighter jock with an itchy trigger finger. quasi-political rant mode off |
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He's hoping for the GA aircraft to get shot down. I don't think he would
hesitate to make that call on ANY aircraft that violated Chicago's bravo. We already know he makes up his own rules as he goes along. wrote in message ups.com... Funny how a guy that has proved himself anti-GA could be so interested in aviation now. |
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message news:UKmie.567$yc.297@trnddc09... He's hoping for the GA aircraft to get shot down. I don't think he would hesitate to make that call on ANY aircraft that violated Chicago's bravo. We already know he makes up his own rules as he goes along. wrote in message ups.com... Funny how a guy that has proved himself anti-GA could be so interested in aviation now. Luckily, even if they put a an ADIZ over Chicago and based fighters there Daily wouldn't be the guy giving the order for the fighters to shoot. |
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:UKmie.567$yc.297@trnddc09... He's hoping for the GA aircraft to get shot down. I don't think he would hesitate to make that call on ANY aircraft that violated Chicago's bravo. Ironically, you can fly into the Sears Tower without busting the Class B; in fact, now that Meigs is gone, you can do it without even being required to have a radio. --Gary |
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Gary Drescher wrote:
Ironically, you can fly into the Sears Tower without busting the Class B; in fact, now that Meigs is gone, you can do it without even being required to have a radio. You'd still need mode C in most cases ;-) |
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message ... Gary Drescher wrote: Ironically, you can fly into the Sears Tower without busting the Class B; in fact, now that Meigs is gone, you can do it without even being required to have a radio. You'd still need mode C in most cases ;-) But if you don't have a radio it's probably because you don't have an electrical system. If your airplane has never had an engine-driven electrical system it doesn't need a transponder or encoder to operate in the Mode C veil. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message ... Gary Drescher wrote: Ironically, you can fly into the Sears Tower without busting the Class B; in fact, now that Meigs is gone, you can do it without even being required to have a radio. You'd still need mode C in most cases ;-) But if you don't have a radio it's probably because you don't have an electrical system. If your airplane has never had an engine-driven electrical system it doesn't need a transponder or encoder to operate in the Mode C veil. Not a whole lot of those out there. I actually flew my Navion around a bit with no radios in it (or transponder). Stayed away from the Mode C veil (and the ADIZ). |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
But if you don't have a radio it's probably because you don't have an electrical system. If your airplane has never had an engine-driven electrical system it doesn't need a transponder or encoder to operate in the Mode C veil. A plane like that would probably bounce off the Sears tower. George Patterson "Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got no clothes on - and are up to somethin'. |
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message news:UKmie.567$yc.297@trnddc09... He's hoping for the GA aircraft to get shot down. I don't think he would hesitate to make that call on ANY aircraft that violated Chicago's bravo. We already know he makes up his own rules as he goes along. He actually uses the rules to his advantage. His ducks are lined up. |
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wrote in message ups.com... With all the reports now coming out about how close that Cessna came to getting smoked over Washington, it got me thinking. When the governor of Kentucky flew into D.C. in his King Air with a dead transponder, it caused all kinds of panic. Then the Cessna incident happened. If something like that occurred again, what are the chances that the next aircraft would be fired upon? The more often these occur without anybody seriously hurt, the less likely there will be a shoot-down because the previous experiences will suggest "low danger probability". ... and also the more likely that the media will go away because they want to be chasing real blood, not another ho-hum ADIZ penetration. |
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