NOTAM

I saw this in another forum.

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The FAA released a Flight Advisory Thursday regarding the Republican National
Convention (RNC) scheduled for August 30-September 3 in New York City. The
designated National Special Security Event will prompt three Temporary Flight
Restriction (TFR) areas including a 7 nautical mile radius (NMR) around
LaGuardia Airport (LGA); the New York Class B Airspace 20 nm boundary from
(LGA), Kennedy (JFK) and Newark (EWR) airports; and the Morristown, New
Jersey Airport (MMU) ingress/egress procedures area. The 7 NMR TFR is up to
but not including FL180, excluding a 2-NMR of Teterboro at and below 2000
feet MSL. Only VFR/IFR arrivals and departures will be permitted at
Teterboro. Other aircraft operations approved by the United States Secret
Service (USSS) will be permitted. An official Notice to Airmen was issued
late Thursday on restrictions, dates/times, etc. Added to the NOTAM was
prohibition of "model aircraft operations, model rocketry, remotely operated
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aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles." EAA advises pilots to check the latest
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NOTAMs before taking off on any flight. EAA advises pilots to check the
latest NOTAMs before taking off on any flight.
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?

-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?


What are they going to do: take your model airplane license away?

C J Campbell wrote:

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?


What are they going to do: take your model airplane license away?

I don't know, but does the FAA even have jurisdiction over model
airplanes and rockets? It seems you would have to get a city ordinance
or something like that to keep these from flying.

"DanH" wrote in message
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I don't know, but does the FAA even have jurisdiction over model
airplanes and rockets?


They have jurisdiction over higher-end rocketry, as I recall none over model
airplanes.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:36:47 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

"DanH" wrote in message
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I don't know, but does the FAA even have jurisdiction over model
airplanes and rockets?

They have jurisdiction over higher-end rocketry, as I recall none over model
airplanes.

The President of the Academy of Model Aeronautics recently visited
the FAA in Washington, D.C.:

"The meeting was to discuss the issue of FAA's future regulation of
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs)—formerly referred to as Remotely
Piloted Vehicles (RPVs)—and its impact on model aviation. One of the
first things I learned was that there is a new designation for these
vehicles, the importance of which was not lost on me. The new
abbreviation and term are UA—Unmanned Aircraft.

"The reason for this change, or at least the effect of it, became
obvious later in the meeting. This change makes it very clear that the
FAA has jurisdiction over UAs and that they can be subjected to
certification and licensing requirements, just as with any other
aircraft.

"This may not seem significant, but it could become so. The FAA
doesn't give the impression that it wants to regulate model airplanes,
but it does have responsibility for all of the navigable airspace in
the United States, and we fly in that airspace. The people in the FAA
seem to want to ensure we integrate into that airspace without
creating a safety problem for its other users."

http://www.modelaircraft.org/mag/0804/president.htm

Seems to me I've also seen some alititude restrictions imposed
on RC models flying near full-scale airfields. I think that at my
field (Reservoir Park, Lewiston, NY), we're technically
not supposed to go above 500 feet. Some of the larger
models (~40% scale) apparently can be seen on the radar
screens at Niagara Falls (IAG).

Marty

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote in message
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"This may not seem significant, but it could become so. The FAA
doesn't give the impression that it wants to regulate model airplanes,
but it does have responsibility for all of the navigable airspace in
the United States, and we fly in that airspace.


Do you? Are model airplanes generally flown above 500' AGL?

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote in message
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Seems to me I've also seen some alititude restrictions imposed
on RC models flying near full-scale airfields. I think that at my
field (Reservoir Park, Lewiston, NY), we're technically
not supposed to go above 500 feet. Some of the larger
models (~40% scale) apparently can be seen on the radar
screens at Niagara Falls (IAG).

Marty,

A dumb question: other than eyeballing and estimating, how exactly does
someone controlling a RC model know its altitude?


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DanH wrote:




I don't know, but does the FAA even have jurisdiction over model
airplanes and rockets? It seems you would have to get a city ordinance
or something like that to keep these from flying.

To fly model rockets you have to get a waiver from FSDO to be legal.

"Newps" wrote in message
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To fly model rockets you have to get a waiver from FSDO to be legal.


Even those toy Estes ones?

We have given those to CAP cadets to play with, have we done so illegally?
Should we end the cadet rocketry program?

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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To fly model rockets you have to get a waiver from FSDO to be legal.


Even those toy Estes ones?


See FAR 101.1(a)(3) below:


Title 14--Aeronauticsand Space

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

SUBCHAPTER F--AIR TRAFFIC AND GENERAL OPERATING RULES

PART 101--MOORED BALLOONS, KITES, UNMANNED ROCKETS AND UNMANNED FREE
BALLOONS

§ 101.1 Applicability.

(a) This part prescribes rules governing the operation in the United
States,
of the following:

(1) Except as provided for in §101.7, any balloon that is moored to the
surface of the earth or an object thereon and that has a diameter of more
than 6 feet or a gas capacity of more than 115 cubic feet.

(2) Except as provided for in §101.7, any kite that weighs more than 5
pounds and is intended to be flown at the end of a rope or cable.

(3) Any unmanned rocket except:

(i) Aerial firework displays; and,

(ii) Model rockets:

(a) Using not more than four ounces of propellant;

(b) Using a slow-burning propellant;

(c) Made of paper, wood, or breakable plastic, containing no
substantial
metal parts and weighing not more than 16 ounces, including the propellant;
and

(d) Operated in a manner that does not create a hazard to persons,
property, or other aircraft.

(4) Except as provided for in §101.7, any unmanned free balloon that-

(i) Carries a payload package that weighs more than four pounds and
has a weight/size ratio of more than three ounces per square inch on any
surface
of the package, determined by dividing the total weight in ounces of the
payload package by the area in square inches of its smallest surface;

(ii) Carries a payload package that weighs more than six pounds;

(iii) Carries a payload, of two or more packages, that weighs more
than 12
pounds; or

(iv) Uses a rope or other device for suspension of the payload that
requires
an impact force of more than 50 pounds to separate the suspended payload
from the balloon.

(b) For the purposes of this part, a gyroglider attached to a vehicle on
the
surface of the earth is considered to be a kite.

[Doc. No. 1580, 28 FR 6721, June 29, 1963, as amended by Amdt. 101-1, 29 FR
46, Jan. 3, 1964; Amdt. 101-3, 35 FR 8213, May 26, 1970]