Lycoming Loses Big Lawsuit / Indemnity Claim Squashed

On 2/23/2005 15:35, Matt Barrow wrote:

wrote in message
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Sad thing is tht there was probably an engineer that said to his boss
"Sir, the crank is undersize for this increase in horsepower. We
should up the diameter and change the crankcase accordingly".
Management reply: "That would cost too much and marketing says we need
this engine ready next month. No time or money for re-tooling or a new
casting. Make it work"

I hear this kind of warped logic all the time where I am now.....


Hmmm...Colin Kingsbury (in this group) says that sort of thing is common in
software development and infers that it's a _good thing_.



Well, with software development, the goal is most often to meet the
sales deadline, so the money can be counted "in the quarter". As
a software developer, I can tell you that it's been a while since
I've been able to complete a project on schedule - in fact, we
often don't have time to even work out the schedules any more.

The hardware business is a little more cut and dried. After all,
if you produce an engine with a faulty crank, it's pretty hard
to apply a patch ;-)


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL
Sacramento, CA

Then why don't 400 HP IO-720s break cranks regularily (or maybe they
do?). The problem isn't HP, the problem is crank/propeller dynamics.
This is not a simple thing to analyze (except for a jury I guess).

NRP

Mark Hansen wrote:

Well, with software development, the goal is most often to meet the
sales deadline, so the money can be counted "in the quarter".

Yep. One group I worked with at my former employer once knowingly shipped a
blank installation tape. It bought them a week of development.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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On 2/23/2005 15:35, Matt Barrow wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
Sad thing is tht there was probably an engineer that said to his boss
"Sir, the crank is undersize for this increase in horsepower. We
should up the diameter and change the crankcase accordingly".
Management reply: "That would cost too much and marketing says we need
this engine ready next month. No time or money for re-tooling or a new
casting. Make it work"

I hear this kind of warped logic all the time where I am now.....


Hmmm...Colin Kingsbury (in this group) says that sort of thing is common
in
software development and infers that it's a _good thing_.



Well, with software development, the goal is most often to meet the
sales deadline, so the money can be counted "in the quarter". As
a software developer, I can tell you that it's been a while since
I've been able to complete a project on schedule - in fact, we
often don't have time to even work out the schedules any more.

I hope you're writing games and such, rather than something like
defibrillators.


The hardware business is a little more cut and dried. After all,
if you produce an engine with a faulty crank, it's pretty hard
to apply a patch ;-)

Or the above.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Mark Hansen wrote:

Well, with software development, the goal is most often to meet the
sales deadline, so the money can be counted "in the quarter".

Yep. One group I worked with at my former employer once knowingly shipped
a
blank installation tape. It bought them a week of development.

Did it vary much from the final product?

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:35:15 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


Hmmm...Colin Kingsbury (in this group) says that sort of thing is common
in
software development and infers that it's a _good thing_.


Maybe that shows in the nature of the beast. Lycoming has continually
shot themselves in the foot by poor engineering/bean-counter decisions
eg. oil pump gears, oil pump shafts, crankshafts.......

in the world of engineering/maintenance, it is a major ****-off, but
schedules MUST take the back seat to doing the job RIGHT.....

And they wonder (actually, they ****, moan and bitch) why most American
products don't sell well or are losing market share...

--

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

"nrp" wrote in message
ups.com...
Then why don't 400 HP IO-720s break cranks regularily (or maybe they
do?). The problem isn't HP, the problem is crank/propeller dynamics.
This is not a simple thing to analyze (except for a jury I guess).

Maybe Oprah Winfrey gave testimony as an expert witness?

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Mark Hansen wrote:

Well, with software development, the goal is most often to meet the
sales deadline, so the money can be counted "in the quarter".

Yep. One group I worked with at my former employer once knowingly shipped
a
blank installation tape. It bought them a week of development.

Did it vary much from the final product?



LOL, one of you has to work for IBM. Fess'up. I been around this block
with Big Blue.

Matt Barrow wrote:

: "George Patterson" wrote in message
: ...
:
: Yep. One group I worked with at my former employer once knowingly shipped
: a
: blank installation tape. It bought them a week of development.
:
: Did it vary much from the final product?

It produce many fewer errors! A hardware group I one worked with shipped
just the lid to the packing crate with the shipping info on it ("What?!
*THE LID* showed up? Where'd the rest of the one-off prototype go? Well,
I guess we'll just have to make a new on, take about 4 months...")
--
Aaron C.

Dude wrote:

LOL, one of you has to work for IBM. Fess'up. I been around this block
with Big Blue.

Not I, but it may be where our management got the idea.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.