If GA is down, why aren't used aircraft prices?

Darkwing wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:


Could there be demand for the 150's driving up price due to it being
allowed under the Sport Pilot rules?


That might be the case if the 150 was legal under the SP rules.
Unfortunatly it isn't.

Is the 152 or was there people trying to make the case for it to be
allowed?
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DW

Nope the 152 isn't either. It weighs more than the 150. Yes, there was a
push before the rules went into effect to push the MGW up to a point where
the 150/152 would be covered. The 150 MGW is ~1600 lbs. so the allowable
weight would have to be increased as close to 300 or maybe a little more.

Looking back it wouldn't surprise me that Cessna didn't have something to do
with the 150 NOT being allowed.

Oh like you mean the Yak 52 and the AN 2 biplane not being certified by the
US.
Use of lawyers, congress etc is all part of the game.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:


Could there be demand for the 150's driving up price due to it being
allowed under the Sport Pilot rules?


That might be the case if the 150 was legal under the SP rules.
Unfortunatly it isn't.

Is the 152 or was there people trying to make the case for it to be
allowed?
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DW

Nope the 152 isn't either. It weighs more than the 150. Yes, there was a
push before the rules went into effect to push the MGW up to a point where
the 150/152 would be covered. The 150 MGW is ~1600 lbs. so the allowable
weight would have to be increased as close to 300 or maybe a little more.

Looking back it wouldn't surprise me that Cessna didn't have something to
do with the 150 NOT being allowed.

john hawkins wrote:
Oh like you mean the Yak 52 and the AN 2 biplane not being certified
by the US.
Use of lawyers, congress etc is all part of the game.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:


Could there be demand for the 150's driving up price due to it
being allowed under the Sport Pilot rules?


That might be the case if the 150 was legal under the SP rules.
Unfortunatly it isn't.

Is the 152 or was there people trying to make the case for it to be
allowed?
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DW

Nope the 152 isn't either. It weighs more than the 150. Yes, there
was a push before the rules went into effect to push the MGW up to a
point where the 150/152 would be covered. The 150 MGW is ~1600 lbs.
so the allowable weight would have to be increased as close to 300
or maybe a little more. Looking back it wouldn't surprise me that Cessna
didn't have
something to do with the 150 NOT being allowed.


I don't know about the Yak or the AN2 but Cessna might not have +/-1000
orders for the Skycatcher right now if all those 150s were SP legal.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Darkwing wrote:


Could there be demand for the 150's driving up price due to it being
allowed under the Sport Pilot rules?


That might be the case if the 150 was legal under the SP rules.
Unfortunatly it isn't.

Is the 152 or was there people trying to make the case for it to be
allowed?
----------------------------------------
DW

Nope the 152 isn't either. It weighs more than the 150. Yes, there was a
push before the rules went into effect to push the MGW up to a point where
the 150/152 would be covered. The 150 MGW is ~1600 lbs. so the allowable
weight would have to be increased as close to 300 or maybe a little more.

Looking back it wouldn't surprise me that Cessna didn't have something to
do with the 150 NOT being allowed.

I know several people involved in writing the LSA rules, and I never heard
anything about Cessna being involved. One of the main goals of LSA was to
cause NEW aircraft to be built, so they intentionally wanted to exclude as
many existing aircraft as possible. I proposed (and it fell on deaf ears)
that for a period of 3 years that the weight limit be higher for LSAs then
drop, so that flight schools (and individuals) would have a population of
aircraft to draw from while production spun up.