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"Vaughn" wrote in message ... "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message ... I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a few acres maybe an inch tall. Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete. The concrete homes are cooler also... Did you know that they even make airplanes out of wood? (aviation content) Vaughn -- Dan D. http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html .. |
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There's a simple solution: build HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/co...ars/index.html Hurricane resistant, maybe...Hurricane Proof, never. Unless everything around it is tied down and the wind is from the right direction, any building is vulnerable to damage from a strong hurricane. One of the biggest sources of damage in every hurricane is blowing debris causing the initial damage to a building and the resulting winds finishing the work. That must explain why every home in the neighborhood I grew up in is still standing, -intact-, 60+ years after they were built, and several hurricanes later, while one hurricane pretty much wiped out entire cities and neighborhoods in a few hours in Florida. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when it comes to protecting people from things like hurricanes, concrete beats wood 99% of the time. No, concrete designed to withstand hurricans beats wood that wasn't so designed. The old wood sailing ships took a lot more beating on a daily basis than is dished out by a hurricane. And they held up rather well. It is a matter of what loads the structure is designed for, not the materials used in the construction. Matt Matt, You are wasting your time trying to reason with Jaun, he is a self proclaimed expert in all things and nothing will ever change his mind. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:17:26 GMT, "Ken Finney"
wrote: 1. If I lived in hurricane country, I'd have at least one Gunnite-type quonset hut to put my valuables in and hide in. Yup, quonset huts do good in the wind. Four winters ago the small rural fishing town in Alaska where I lived was hit by a typhoon and hurricane force winds were measured in the small boat harbor. Trees went down all over town (fortunately most of the power lines were underground), and many people lost roofs. One building in particular literally exploded and its roof was carried away, out over the inlet, never to be seen again. Our commercial buildings consisted of a large, wood framed quonset hut and a timber framed shop and adjoining warehouse built with 12x12 timbers (my dad didn't know the meaning of the word overkill). Our total damage consisted of a couple chimney caps that got blown off. One was rusted out and needed replacement anyway, and the other, after the stoorm ended I picked it up off the ground and put it back where it belonged. I felt kind of bad considering the damage some of our friends suffered but oh well. ================================================== == Del Rawlins-- Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply |
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In article , RobertR237 says...
You are wasting your time trying to reason with Jaun, he is a self proclaimed expert in all things and nothing will ever change his mind. Boy you got that right ,it didn't take jaun long to start ragging on people over material for a building. I guess a cement BD-5 will fly as good as his perpetual BD-5 project LOL!! Flame shorts on !! See ya Chuck (the guy that designed wood is a pretty good designer) S |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:31:20 -0700, Richard Riley
wrote: Apparently most of them survived the huricane fine, unless they were hit by flying cars and oak trees. Flying cars and oak trees! So it takes a hurricane to make our wishes come true! Not at all! Tornadoes do it too. Yeah, but when a tornado hits Kansas, you don't get a lot of surfers running around yelling, "Dirt's up!" :-) Ron Wanttaja |
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"Blueskies" wrote in message . com... "Richard Riley" wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2004 14:24:02 GMT, osite (RobertR237) wrote: : Apparently most of them survived the huricane fine, unless they were hit by flying cars and oak trees. Flying cars and oak trees! So it takes a hurricane to make our wishes come true! I think I saw Moller down there looking at the oak trees. |
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
... Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete structure. I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a dome it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will be a pile of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have been done; it's not a mystery. http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete. It has everything to do with hurricanes. And fire. And floods. And rot. |
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"RobertR237" wrote in message
... There's a simple solution: build HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/co...ars/index.html Hurricane resistant, maybe...Hurricane Proof, never. Which of the numbers do you disagree with? http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html |
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Blueskies wrote:
"Vaughn" wrote in message ... "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message . .. I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a few acres maybe an inch tall. Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete. The concrete homes are cooler also... Until they get warmed up and then they stay hotter. Matt |
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From: "geo" Subject: HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:20 PM "Vaughn" wrote in message ... Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete structure. I'm not talking about cinder blocks. And I am not talking about reinforced concrete dome houses. I am talking about the real-life code-compliant housing that fills up neighborhoods here in south Florida. In fact, my post above was not even in response to you, and certainly not to some weird structure that lives in your imagination or on a on a web page somewhere. Last time I checked; here in south Florida, a code-compliant wooden house will get the same insurance rate for storm coverage as a comparable concrete home. Proper storm shutters and/or Dade approved window and door systems are a major item and insurance companies may someday force 100% retrofit in storm counties. After window protection, the next most important item for storm resistance is roof design, not the building material of the walls. Ten years ago, I toured hurricane Andrew's devastation and saw many failed structures, wood, concrete block, and yes; even reinforced concrete. Vaughn (a guy who lives in a concrete house) |
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