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Old August 16th 04, 11:01 PM
Blueskies
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of
wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a
few acres maybe an inch tall.


Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.


The concrete homes are cooler also...


Did you know that they even make airplanes out of wood? (aviation content)

Vaughn



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Old August 17th 04, 03:22 AM
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There's a simple solution: build HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS

http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/co...ars/index.html


Hurricane resistant, maybe...Hurricane Proof, never.

Unless everything around it is tied down and the wind is from the
right direction, any building is vulnerable to damage from a strong
hurricane. One of the biggest sources of damage in every hurricane is
blowing debris causing the initial damage to a building and the
resulting winds finishing the work.



That must explain why every home in the neighborhood I grew up in is still
standing, -intact-, 60+ years after they were built, and several hurricanes


later, while one hurricane pretty much wiped out entire cities and
neighborhoods in a few hours in Florida. It doesn't take a genius to figure


out that when it comes to protecting people from things like hurricanes,
concrete beats wood 99% of the time.


No, concrete designed to withstand hurricans beats wood that wasn't so
designed. The old wood sailing ships took a lot more beating on a daily
basis than is dished out by a hurricane. And they held up rather well.
It is a matter of what loads the structure is designed for, not the
materials used in the construction.


Matt


Matt,

You are wasting your time trying to reason with Jaun, he is a self proclaimed
expert in all things and nothing will ever change his mind.


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Old August 17th 04, 03:56 AM
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:17:26 GMT, "Ken Finney"
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1. If I lived in hurricane country, I'd have at least one Gunnite-type
quonset hut to put my valuables in and hide in.


Yup, quonset huts do good in the wind. Four winters ago the small
rural fishing town in Alaska where I lived was hit by a typhoon and
hurricane force winds were measured in the small boat harbor. Trees
went down all over town (fortunately most of the power lines were
underground), and many people lost roofs. One building in particular
literally exploded and its roof was carried away, out over the inlet,
never to be seen again. Our commercial buildings consisted of a
large, wood framed quonset hut and a timber framed shop and adjoining
warehouse built with 12x12 timbers (my dad didn't know the meaning of
the word overkill). Our total damage consisted of a couple chimney
caps that got blown off. One was rusted out and needed replacement
anyway, and the other, after the stoorm ended I picked it up off the
ground and put it back where it belonged. I felt kind of bad
considering the damage some of our friends suffered but oh well.


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Old August 17th 04, 03:58 AM
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In article , RobertR237 says...
You are wasting your time trying to reason with Jaun, he is a self proclaimed
expert in all things and nothing will ever change his mind.


Boy you got that right ,it didn't take jaun long to start ragging on people
over material for a building. I guess a cement BD-5 will fly as good as his
perpetual BD-5 project LOL!!

Flame shorts on !!

See ya

Chuck (the guy that designed wood is a pretty good designer) S

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Old August 17th 04, 06:50 AM
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:31:20 -0700, Richard Riley
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Apparently most of them survived the huricane fine, unless
they were hit by flying cars and oak trees.


Flying cars and oak trees! So it takes a hurricane to make our wishes come true!


Not at all! Tornadoes do it too.


Yeah, but when a tornado hits Kansas, you don't get a lot of surfers
running around yelling, "Dirt's up!" :-)

Ron Wanttaja
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Old August 17th 04, 02:10 PM
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"Blueskies" wrote in message . com...
"Richard Riley" wrote in message ...
On 16 Aug 2004 14:24:02 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
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Apparently most of them survived the huricane fine, unless
they were hit by flying cars and oak trees.



Flying cars and oak trees! So it takes a hurricane to make our wishes come true!

I think I saw Moller down there looking at the oak trees.

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Old August 17th 04, 07:20 PM
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
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Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden

structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure.


I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the
strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a dome
it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will be a pile
of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have been done; it's
not a mystery. http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html

For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to

do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.


It has everything to do with hurricanes. And fire. And floods. And rot.


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Old August 17th 04, 07:26 PM
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"RobertR237" wrote in message
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There's a simple solution: build HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS

http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/co...ars/index.html


Hurricane resistant, maybe...Hurricane Proof, never.



Which of the numbers do you disagree with?
http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html


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Old August 17th 04, 11:27 PM
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Blueskies wrote:

"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of
wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a
few acres maybe an inch tall.


Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.



The concrete homes are cooler also...


Until they get warmed up and then they stay hotter.


Matt

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Old August 17th 04, 11:28 PM
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From: "geo"
Subject: HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:20 PM

"Vaughn" wrote in message
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Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden

structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure.


I'm not talking about cinder blocks.


And I am not talking about reinforced concrete dome houses. I am talking
about the real-life code-compliant housing that fills up neighborhoods here in
south Florida. In fact, my post above was not even in response to you, and
certainly not to some weird structure that lives in your imagination or on a on
a web page somewhere.

Last time I checked; here in south Florida, a code-compliant wooden house
will get the same insurance rate for storm coverage as a comparable concrete
home. Proper storm shutters and/or Dade approved window and door systems are a
major item and insurance companies may someday force 100% retrofit in storm
counties. After window protection, the next most important item for storm
resistance is roof design, not the building material of the walls.

Ten years ago, I toured hurricane Andrew's devastation and saw many failed
structures, wood, concrete block, and yes; even reinforced concrete.


Vaughn (a guy who lives in a concrete house)




 




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