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  #31  
Old July 10th 07, 06:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 7/10/2007 1:29:34 AM, Clark wrote:

Not at all. My first real world boss was Navy and a Vietnam vet. I won't
type what I'm thinking about your nature, but it isn't good.


I believe you have misunderstood the poster's intent. Based on my
interpretation, he was stating that he doesn't understand why a former
Navy/Vietnam vet would not know the importance of a flyby. I will go out
on a
limb here to suggest that he was in no way suggesting any disrespect for
either the Navy or a Vietnam Vet status.

Reread his post to see if that makes sense.


Nope. No change.

His question, paraphrased, was, "How could a Navy vet also be a Vietnam
vet". I see nothing to connotate the letter writers misunderstanding a
Missing Man Formation.

If you can detect otherwise, please show us.


  #32  
Old July 10th 07, 06:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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How many military and non-military types see F-16's buzzing around and
turn green with ENVY?



You can count me as one of the green!


  #33  
Old July 10th 07, 06:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 7/10/2007 1:29:34 AM, Clark wrote:

Not at all. My first real world boss was Navy and a Vietnam vet. I won't
type what I'm thinking about your nature, but it isn't good.


I believe you have misunderstood the poster's intent. Based on my
interpretation, he was stating that he doesn't understand why a former
Navy/Vietnam vet would not know the importance of a flyby. I will go out
on a
limb here to suggest that he was in no way suggesting any disrespect for
either the Navy or a Vietnam Vet status.

Reread his post to see if that makes sense.


Nope. No change.

His question, paraphrased, was, "How could a Navy vet also be a Vietnam
vet". I see nothing to connotate the letter writers misunderstanding a
Missing Man Formation.

If you can detect otherwise, please show us.


That's how I took it. If I am incorrect, I apologize to the OP.

Al G


  #34  
Old July 10th 07, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Crawford
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Matt,

His (Neil Gould) original post listed 2 statements (each containing
unfortunately 2 clauses), namely:

"[...]
I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have
insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.

[...]
I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran.

"

He then asked "Anyone else have trouble reconciling these two
statements?"

I believe that your paraphrasing of his question is incorrect and
inaccurate.
Subsequent posts by Neil (i.e. "What does that have to do with the
question at hand: what Vet wouldn't
know the significance of a flyby formation???") further support that
contention.

Hopefully that's clear enough for you.

On Jul 10, 1:00 pm, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:
"Peter R." wrote in message

...

On 7/10/2007 1:29:34 AM, Clark wrote:


Not at all. My first real world boss was Navy and a Vietnam vet. I won't
type what I'm thinking about your nature, but it isn't good.


I believe you have misunderstood the poster's intent. Based on my
interpretation, he was stating that he doesn't understand why a former
Navy/Vietnam vet would not know the importance of a flyby. I will go out
on a
limb here to suggest that he was in no way suggesting any disrespect for
either the Navy or a Vietnam Vet status.


Reread his post to see if that makes sense.


Nope. No change.

His question, paraphrased, was, "How could a Navy vet also be a Vietnam
vet". I see nothing to connotate the letter writers misunderstanding a
Missing Man Formation.

If you can detect otherwise, please show us.



  #35  
Old July 10th 07, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Barrow wrote:


Nope. No change.

His question, paraphrased, was, "How could a Navy vet also be a
Vietnam vet". I see nothing to connotate the letter writers
misunderstanding a Missing Man Formation.

If you can detect otherwise, please show us.


Below, between the ----- is what was in Neil's post.


-------
According to Snopes.com, this incident was in 2005.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp


There was another letter that continued this topic.

To his credit, the complainant, Mr. MacRae, tendered a written apology
which was published in The Republic on 9 July:

[...]
I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have
insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.

[...]
I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran.

Anyone else have trouble reconciling these two statements?

Neil
---------


If he had done a little snipping he would have posted this.


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[...]
I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have
insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.

[...]
I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran.

Anyone else have trouble reconciling these two statements?

Neil
XXXXXXXXXXXX



Statement Number 1

I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have
insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.


Statement Number 2

I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran.






  #36  
Old July 10th 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 7/10/2007 2:21:41 PM, Clark wrote:

His post is ambiguous at best. My interpretation is reasonable even though
it may or may not have been the author's intent. I'll maintain my stance
on the author's nature.


Very well. We all need a cause and it appears that you have advanced yours.

--
Peter
  #37  
Old July 10th 07, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 7/10/2007 2:20:06 PM, Clark wrote:

I told you that I wouldn't type what I'm thinking. Why do you ask? Think
I'll change my mind?


Too proud to admit you made a mistake, eh?

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Peter
  #38  
Old July 10th 07, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Recently, Matt Barrow posted:

"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 7/10/2007 1:29:34 AM, Clark wrote:

Not at all. My first real world boss was Navy and a Vietnam vet. I
won't type what I'm thinking about your nature, but it isn't good.


I believe you have misunderstood the poster's intent. Based on my
interpretation, he was stating that he doesn't understand why a
former Navy/Vietnam vet would not know the importance of a flyby. I
will go out on a
limb here to suggest that he was in no way suggesting any disrespect
for either the Navy or a Vietnam Vet status.

Reread his post to see if that makes sense.


Nope. No change.

His question, paraphrased, was, "How could a Navy vet also be a
Vietnam vet". I see nothing to connotate the letter writers
misunderstanding a Missing Man Formation.

That was NOT my original question; Peter R. got it right. I don't know
where you're coming from at all, Matt.

If you can detect otherwise, please show us.

Go read the original post until you get it.

Neil


  #39  
Old July 10th 07, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Recently, Al G posted:

That's how I took it. If I am incorrect, I apologize to the OP.

You are incorrect. Apology appreciated. ;-)

Neil


  #40  
Old July 10th 07, 09:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 7/10/2007 4:12:17 PM, Clark wrote:

Do you have a point?


Yes. My point is that you are making something out of nothing and seemingly
damn proud of it. The original author had no intention of disrespecting Navy
or Vietnam vets, yet even after he attempted to explain himself you still
stand by the opinion that he did.

As if you have never, ever posted a thought on Usenet that could have been
misinterpreted by the reader...



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Peter
 




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