buy your sailplane scam?

Wings and Wheels has a warning on it's classified page:

Warning !
If you receive an email similar to this example
it is a scam
"Hello,I Am interested in buying your advertised ads for sale {JANTAR
GFK SAILPLANE} that been posted on the ad 2004 i am a seller that buy
items and resell so want to buy your JANTAR SAILPLANE. I will like to
know the actual price you want to offer it for sale and the present
condition and the pics of it.and mode of my payment will be a cheque
drawn from an UK bank. Note that the shipping will be handle by my
shipper that will come to you house for that pickup,if this is okay by
you i want you to get back to me with your full name, your full contact
address and your full phone number. best regards Smith."

How is this scam supposed to work?

I'm getting some interest on a glider I'm selling from someone who's
emails look suspiciously like that above. How does this work?

Thanks,
Matt

At 16:12 10 December 2005, wrote:

How is this scam supposed to work?

I'm getting some interest on a glider I'm selling from
someone who's
emails look suspiciously like that above. How does
this work?


It's one of a class of internet scams collectively
referred to as the Nigerian scam. Here's a description,
though there are many variants:

http://www.sailingtexas.com/chumor4.html

9B

"Andy Blackburn" wrote in message
...
At 16:12 10 December 2005, wrote:

How is this scam supposed to work?

I'm getting some interest on a glider I'm selling from
someone who's
emails look suspiciously like that above. How does
this work?


It's one of a class of internet scams collectively
referred to as the Nigerian scam. Here's a description,
though there are many variants:

http://www.sailingtexas.com/chumor4.html

9B

It has also been done to the unsuspecting around here.. car for sale ad in
the local papers..
and the "scam artist" pays with to large of a bogus bank draft.. takes the
"change and the car" and then when the bank comes back and denies the
deposit because it is counterfeit.. the car seller is "accused of passing
bad paper"
BT

I read the boat for sale exchange. What a hoot! Can you imagine
someone in the United Arab Emirates buying a vintage Cherokee glider
without asking about flying qualities condition etc. and paying the
shipping!? It must be that billionaire sultan VSA member who is
setting up the museum there. Yup, that's gotta be it...

MM

It gets worse, though.

Many of the cashier's checks or drafts are such good counterfeits that
the bank may actually deposit the money in your account and then suck
it out again a week or so later when they discover it's bogus. This
only happens when it's presented to the "issuing" bank in Lagos or
wherever.

If the checks were bounced on presentation, it wouldn't be such a big
problem. But people end up seeing the money in their account, wiring
the "extra" to the "buyer", then owing the bank money when the original
deposit is reversed.

Of course, it's worse for goods that are smaller and easily shipped.
In those cases, you're out the goods as well as the money.

Maybe Tim Mara will share with the group his actual experience of such
a scam - he told me about this some time ago.

Mike

I would like to hear of any accounts of sellers succeeding in scamming
the scammer...

~tuno

wrote:
I would like to hear of any accounts of sellers succeeding in scamming
the scammer...

~tuno

The classic:
http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm

Shawn

Already aware of that one Shawn (it is a 419 classic!), but I'm
wondering if any *glider* sellers have managed to scam any of these
deadbeats ...

wrote:
Already aware of that one Shawn (it is a 419 classic!), but I'm
wondering if any *glider* sellers have managed to scam any of these
deadbeats ...

No, hadn't heard of any.

Shawn

Shawn wrote:
wrote:
Already aware of that one Shawn (it is a 419 classic!), but I'm
wondering if any *glider* sellers have managed to scam any of these
deadbeats ...

No, hadn't heard of any.

Shawn

Simple: deposit the check and wait. The guy will scream and you just
ignore it. Two weeks should be adequate for the check to clear the
issuing bank (you can always contact that bank to see if they actually
issued it).

You can read about reverse scams (scamsters being scammed) at:

http://www.reversescam.com/

Tom