Another GA crash in CA

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OOPS!!!!


Bummer....throw me in cyber-jail.

I've flown out of there a lot, and if you're routed over LAX VFR, it's
usually via the Special Flight Rules corridor. Out of KSMO runway 21,
you'll do a right climbing 270 to set up for SFR heading southeast.

Looking at his radar track, I can only speculate that he was either
doing the above with a really wide 270 when the engine failed, or that
he was actually doing the standard shoreline departure north and this
wasn't the actual Angel Flight yet.

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL - http://hallert.net/cozy/

Ben Hallert wrote:

Looking at his radar track, I can only speculate that he was either
doing the above with a really wide 270 when the engine failed, or that
he was actually doing the standard shoreline departure north and this
wasn't the actual Angel Flight yet.

One of the articles I read stated that he was en route to pick up the AF
passengers out of a San Diego-based airport.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
Ben Hallert wrote:

Looking at his radar track, I can only speculate that he was either
doing the above with a really wide 270 when the engine failed, or that
he was actually doing the standard shoreline departure north and this
wasn't the actual Angel Flight yet.

One of the articles I read stated that he was en route to pick up the AF
passengers out of a San Diego-based airport.

--
Peter


Very odd with two others on board...Is this normal with these 'Angel' flights?

".Blueskies." wrote:

Very odd with two others on board...Is this normal with these 'Angel' flights?

In my 65 or so AF missions to date, I have taken along both pilot and
non-pilot acquaintances to a) help reduce the workload in busy airspace and
airports, and b) to keep me company on the "dead-head" leg of the trip.

As long as the right seater is understanding of the mission and acts in a
professional manner, especially when the AF patients are on board, I don't
see a problem with this. Angel Flight Northeast does not have any rule
prohibiting this, either.


--
Peter

by " .

Who says Skylune doesn't contribue to RAP?? I followed that link he
gave and learned Osama bin Laden's father died in a Beech Travelair
crash in May of '68. Gee... too bad he wasn't traveling with his son...



Yeah, that is something ALL can agree on! (Probably...)

by " Mar 14, 2006 at 09:55 AM


too bad he wasn't traveling with his son...

Okay, I meant his *evil* son...

Salem bin Laden (Osama's brother) died in an ultralight crash in May of
'88 (almost 20yrs to the day after his dad died) in Texas. (this
website is incredible)

I was amazed how many sports teams, both college and pro have been lost
over the years flying on chartered acft. Sad statistic.




It is astounding how many politicians, musicians, and athletes there are
in the database.

To be fair, not all the listed accidents are GA -- it includes the
hijacked 9/11 flights, space shuttle crashes, etc.

Its also interesting that someone takes the time to continuously update
the web site, but the info does look accurate.

I've just received an email from the Angel Flight West office (I'm
an AFW pilot). The flight was not yet an official AFW flight, it
was "repositioning" to pick up the patient for the AF leg.

It is not at all unusual for us to have Mission Assistants along
on a flight. Frequently the patient will also have their own
accompanying passenger. I've flown flights with both (fortunately,
my favorite M.A. is about 100 pounds!). When the patient travels
with someone they know, they are always more comfortable.

The benefit of a Mission Assist. is that they can communicate and
assist the patient and pax with questions, water, etc. Not only
that, but as with all flights, regardless of reason, another pair
of knowledgeable eyes is always appreciated. Often, if the M.A.
is a rated pilot, it's a chance for them to get some flying time,
too. I'm always the PIC on the AF leg, as per AFW rules, tho.

Besides, it's nice to have company on the non-AF leg.
And let me tell you -- 3.5 hour legs by yourself is NOT fun!

Fortunately, we still have an unblemished record while flying
patients...but that doesn't change the fact we've lost someone
in our family.

Blanche wrote:

Besides, it's nice to have company on the non-AF leg.
And let me tell you -- 3.5 hour legs by yourself is NOT fun!

I actually enjoy flying by myself, since it allows me to participate in all
things aviation (pireps, weather analysis, approach plate briefing,
plotting position along the way, etc.) without having to entertain
non-pilot passengers.

Last May I flew solo across the US in a Bonanza, only landing for fuel and
to quickly stretch my legs. Total flying time was around 13 hours.

Fortunately, we still have an unblemished record while flying
patients...but that doesn't change the fact we've lost someone
in our family.

My deepest condolences to your group.

--
Peter

On 2006-03-14, wrote:
too bad he wasn't traveling with his son...

Okay, I meant his *evil* son...

Salem bin Laden (Osama's brother) died in an ultralight crash in May of
'88 (almost 20yrs to the day after his dad died) in Texas. (this
website is incredible)

Salem bin Laden owned the airport that I did all my ratings at (Houston
Gulf, formerly Spaceland). Something the press of course dined on after
Sept 11 2001. It was owned by his estate after he died in 1988.

Not long after 9/11, it was sold to a property developer who is building
houses on it.

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