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Why Pilots of America rocks...
This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article
is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was pure advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah, I know ...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you. As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-) Martin, usually your English is quite good -- but I haven't had enough beer to make any sense out those two paragraphs. Try that again, please? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 Ercoupe N94856 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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In article cXDvk.326662$yE1.310662@attbi_s21,
"Jay Honeck" wrote: This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was pure advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah, I know ...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you. As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-) Martin, usually your English is quite good -- but I haven't had enough beer to make any sense out those two paragraphs. (if I may interject...) well, it seems Martin's point is that plugging POA as an alternative to rec.aviation.* contributes to the exodus of group contributers, and that actually hurts the group. As to the 2nd para, Martin occasionally utilizes the feature of setting followups ("f-up") to the poster (Martin, in this case). -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
On Sep 3, 5:45*pm, terry wrote:
On Sep 4, 3:27*am, FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: Future history will show..... 2008 was "The Rise Of The White Male Sycophant" America will never be the same as the forces of politically correct tyranny seek to weaken America by lessening the very bedrock culture that built her. *The strong white male men of the west the types like John Wayne have been transformed by the Marxist American media into a weak shriveling sycophant minion servant of strong women and blacks on TV. John Wayne! * You mean Marion ( yeh Marion) Morrison. He was an actor you idiot. That means he plays dress ups and pretends to be someone he is not. *Why dont use a real big white Texan like George Dubbya as your shining example of white male supremacy and intellect.........on second thoughts. Well, Jimmy Stewart would be more suitable, as this is an aviation forum. |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:cXDvk.326662$yE1.310662@attbi_s21: This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was pure advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah, I know ...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you. As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-) Martin, usually your English is quite good Better than your's obviously. Not to mention his usenet savvy. Bertie |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
I really don't want to trim the original post, so I am making a special
exception in deciding to top-post. IMHO, P.O.A definitely does NOT rock! The interface appears tedious, looks silly with those identity logos on the left side, and simply does not work as well as an NNTP server. Frankly, P.O.A is just not worth the effort to search for content, much less sign up and contribute, and if it was the only on-line choice; I would simply go off-line. Peter "Jay Honeck" wrote in message newseovk.270699$TT4.255150@attbi_s22... Below is what was published today on the moderated piloting group, "Pilots of America". As you may recall, this is the piloting group that Dudley Henriques, myself, and a host of others have switched to, now that the cross-posting trolls have emasculated this once-hallowed group. Over on P of A, off-topic posts are segregated to an area called "The Spin Zone". Pretty much anything goes there (as opposed to the rest of the site, which is purely about aviation), and it has been said that it is roughly the equivalent of rec.aviation.piloting. Politics, crime, religion -- you name it -- it's all fair game in the Spin Zone. Usually. Lately, however, things have apparently gotten pretty out of hand there, to the point where the moderators have taken the radical step of closing that part of PofA down for a "cooling off" period. Below is the explanation the moderating team has posted for all to read: ************************************************** ************************************************* Recently, the Management Council posted a general warning about the level of offensive rhetoric in the Spin Zone. After dealing with five violations of the Rules of Conduct in the Spin Zone in the last 12 hours, the Management Council has concluded that too many participants did not take that warning to heart. We have decided that a "time out" is necessary so that all Spin Zone posters can reflect on whether or not they wish to play by the rules. Therefore, the Spin Zone is closed for three days. While the Spin Zone is closed, non-aviation related political, religious, or otherwise potentially controversial topics posted in other forums in violation of the rules for those forums will be deleted, and users who persist in posting inappropriate material will be subject to full site suspension. If, when the Spin Zone reopens, all participants demonstrate a recommitment to the principles of civil discourse upon which this this site was founded, it will remain open. If this pervasive lack of self-discipline continues at the current level, the Management Council will eliminate that forum permanently because we are unwilling to continue spending the amount of time required to manage the misbehavior of the small but significant number of participants who do not abide by the rules. Regards, The Pilots of America Management Council ************************************************** ************************************************* If only something similar could be enforced here, this group would quickly be restored to functionality. Since it can't, I heartily invite everyone who is sick of the "Bertie-MX-Maxwell-Mikey-Rich Troll-o-rama Show" to c'mon over to where the air is clean and fresh, and the management team knows how to deal with children who can't play well with others. http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/ -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 Ercoupe N94856 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
"Bob Noel" wrote well, it seems Martin's point is that plugging POA as an alternative to rec.aviation.* contributes to the exodus of group contributers, and that actually hurts the group. How can it possibly hurt this group any further? I loath the setup of POA, and find little to no enjoyment trying to read it. That being said, all one can hope to do is to keep good people in touch with each other, and POA is all that is left. All one can hope at this point is that this group finish its flaming death gasps, and later that it can possibly be reborn from the ashes. -- Jim in NC |
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buttman writes:
The problem with most of these "moderated" web forums is that they seem to focus their moderation on protecting the thin-skinned from being offended by cuss words and insults, while they let the actual discussions degrade into meaningless, (all though polite) trite crap. For instance its very common to see a thread in a moderated forum about a plane crash. But instead of the discussion being about the actual crash, all you'll see is page after page of replies like "RIP", "This is sad my prayers go out to the victims", "RIP ", "this is sad RIP", etc. Its nice that people are being supportive and polite, but whats the point? Who wants to read that? If I were moderating, that is the exact kind of thing I'd be removing. The same goes for when a thread diverts off into a personal chit chat session between two acquaintances. That's because you cannot have a meaningful discussion among people with differences of opinion without the risk of controversy and conflict. If the discussion forum is peaceful, it will also be boring, with no real discussion of substance. If the discussion forum discusses real issues of real interest, the intolerant among the participants will complain of being offended and will rapidly resort to personal attacks. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. |
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Jay Honeck schrieb:
Try that again, please? What would you say if the bellboy from a hotel in your town shows up in your lobby saying to your guests that they should come over to his place (whatever the reason might be)? You just did *exactly* the same here on usenet. #m |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb: Try that again, please? What would you say if the bellboy from a hotel in your town shows up in your lobby saying to your guests that they should come over to his place (whatever the reason might be)? You just did *exactly* the same here on usenet. What would you say if a fireman showed up in Jay's lobby saying his hotel's roof is on fire and his guests should evacuate to another hotel? And what if pigs had wings? |
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Why Pilots of America rocks...
On Sep 4, 10:39*am, a wrote:
On Sep 3, 5:45*pm, terry wrote: On Sep 4, 3:27*am, FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: Future history will show..... 2008 was "The Rise Of The White Male Sycophant" America will never be the same as the forces of politically correct tyranny seek to weaken America by lessening the very bedrock culture that built her. *The strong white male men of the west the types like John Wayne have been transformed by the Marxist American media into a weak shriveling sycophant minion servant of strong women and blacks on TV. John Wayne! * You mean Marion ( yeh Marion) Morrison. He was an actor you idiot. That means he plays dress ups and pretends to be someone he is not. *Why dont use a real big white Texan like George Dubbya as your shining example of white male supremacy and intellect.........on second thoughts. Well, Jimmy Stewart would be more suitable, as this is an aviation forum.- Hide quoted text - Now there's a real American hero. |
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