Tire inflation with Nitrogen or ?

Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?

What about hydrogen? It's lighter than air and will boost lift at the
same time

Scott



wrote:
Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


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Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


I'm not sure about the other aspects, but nitrogen is about 1/3 the price.

Scott wrote:
What about hydrogen? It's lighter than air and will boost lift at the
same time

Scott


Little bitty molecules will leak out faster.

Scott wrote:
What about hydrogen? It's lighter than air and will boost lift at the
same time

Scott

The nice thing about filing tyres with hydrogen is one can easily
find leaks with a lighted match.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Scott wrote:
What about hydrogen? It's lighter than air and will boost lift at the
same time

Scott


Little bitty molecules will leak out faster.


Not as fast as helium which has a smaller molecule. For a good time
partially fill the tyre with water.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


I'm not sure about the other aspects, but nitrogen is about 1/3 the price.

And ordinary compressed air is already 80% nitrogen.


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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:54:43 +0000 (UTC),
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In a previous article, "Maxwell" said:
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Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


I'm not sure about the other aspects, but nitrogen is about 1/3 the price.

And ordinary compressed air is already 80% nitrogen.
But the oxygen and ozone, along with a few other gasses does
accellerate the deterioration of the rubber, and the nitrogen stays in
better than the rest (co2 included) Also more temperature stable,
pressure-wize.

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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:54:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, "Maxwell" said:
wrote in message
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Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


I'm not sure about the other aspects, but nitrogen is about 1/3 the
price.

And ordinary compressed air is already 80% nitrogen.
But the oxygen and ozone, along with a few other gasses does
accellerate the deterioration of the rubber, and the nitrogen stays in
better than the rest (co2 included) Also more temperature stable,
pressure-wize.


Yeah, I forgot to mention the pressure aspect until after I hit send. But a
lot of the racers love it because they have less pressure rise as the tires
heat up. Probably the best reason I can see for using it in a auto.
Especially in summer.

Michelin recomends inflating tires with nitrogen. What about Argon? I
got a bottle of argon I use in Mig welding aluminum. Isn't argon
better than Nitrogen? What about the common 75% Argon and 25% CO2
welding mixture?


I'm not sure about the other aspects, but nitrogen is about 1/3 the
price.

And ordinary compressed air is already 80% nitrogen.
But the oxygen and ozone, along with a few other gasses does
accellerate the deterioration of the rubber, and the nitrogen stays in
better than the rest (co2 included) Also more temperature stable,
pressure-wize.


Yeah, I forgot to mention the pressure aspect until after I hit send. But
a
lot of the racers love it because they have less pressure rise as the
tires
heat up. Probably the best reason I can see for using it in a auto.
Especially in summer.


When I saw that 8 replies were already posted, I was sure that someone had
provided a serious response; but it was not bo be.

I have long forgotten the periodic table, so I used Wiki. Argon is shown as
atomic number 18, so it is a good sized molecule--although possibly smaller
than N2--and is supposedly used when Nitrogen is not sufficiently inert.

It seems like it should work just fine, even if mixed later with dry
nitrogen or even with air; but I would call the tire manufacturer and ask.

Peter