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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:25:42 -0400, Andrew C. Toppan
wrote: On the other hand, CNN today showed video of the President leaving an aircraft (apparently a VC-20) and said he had landed at NAS Pensacola. The field is open for emergencies. A visit from the president would certainly qualify. I was capering about on Saturday: I had reserved the Cub for Sunday afternoon, then came the TFRs on the president's visit to ME and NH, then came the hurricane damage and an urgent need for the president to inspect the damage (it's an ill wind that blows nobody good) and the Cub could fly again! But on Sunday afternoon the wind here was gusting 25 knots, so I didn't get to fly after all. (Now Bush is back in NH today! Ah well. There is no rest for the wear in the swing states.) all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com |
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I copied this article segment from a local Pensacola newspaper. Looks the
exhibits suffered no damage with minor damage to the building itself. While it mentions some damage to static aircraft displays outside, it sounds like nothing was totally destroyed. I'm curious if the "significant" damage to some planes is fixable. " The National Museum of Naval Aviation was almost unscathed by the storm. Nichols said there were a few leaks in the roof, but the exhibits inside were unharmed. Some of the historic aircraft parked on the tarmac behind the museum were damaged, however. The canopy of an A-6 was sheared off. A couple of wings lay on the pavement and some planes, evidently blown off their moorings, had collided with other aircraft, causing significant damage." |
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Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and
they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. There was an old hurricane trick that used to be used for smaller operational aircraft to be tied down by putting the aircraft on its belly with gear up and then tying it down. However, with these artifacts, it would not have been possible. Tying down aircraft for a hurricane is not recommended but it is all they could have done, although if the aircraft had been mounted on concrete pads and then the wheels raised off the ground on metal supports they would have been much better protected. Although the musuem was first class inside it left something to be desired outside apparently...and considering this is a hurricane prone area, perhaps it should have been considered. Here in Victoria we had an F-101 that when we got it, we prepared pads and metal supports to secure it and get the tires off the ground. Not a particularly difficult or expensive task. Al Thomas A. Hoffer wrote: I copied this article segment from a local Pensacola newspaper. Looks the exhibits suffered no damage with minor damage to the building itself. While it mentions some damage to static aircraft displays outside, it sounds like nothing was totally destroyed. I'm curious if the "significant" damage to some planes is fixable. " The National Museum of Naval Aviation was almost unscathed by the storm. Nichols said there were a few leaks in the roof, but the exhibits inside were unharmed. Some of the historic aircraft parked on the tarmac behind the museum were damaged, however. The canopy of an A-6 was sheared off. A couple of wings lay on the pavement and some planes, evidently blown off their moorings, had collided with other aircraft, causing significant damage." |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:12:17 -0500, old hoodoo
wrote: Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. They appear to were just have been tied down? Huh? Random verbs? -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. They appear to were just have been tied down? Try "They appear to have merely been tied down"--that is, no heroic measures such as being mounted on plyons. The poster could have been tired, or he could have been educated in an American public school in the past thirty years. (Actually, I seem to recall a Hornet? or two being pylon-mounted in a near-vertical climb at the museum.) As it does for Al (Old Hoodoo), this news breaks my heart, because after six years the Finnish Brewster Buffalo safely arrived at Pensacola barely four weeks ago. I hope it survived the blow and the rain all right, and I hope that the damage to the museum won't delay my chances of viewing the airplane into a seventh year! all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com |
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Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. They appear to were just have been tied down? Try "They appear to have merely been tied down"--that is, no heroic measures such as being mounted on plyons. The poster could have been tired, or he could have been educated in an American public school in the past thirty years. (Actually, I seem to recall a Hornet? or two being pylon-mounted in a near-vertical climb at the museum.) As it does for Al (Old Hoodoo), this news breaks my heart, because after six years the Finnish Brewster Buffalo safely arrived at Pensacola barely four weeks ago. I hope it survived the blow and the rain all right, and I hope that the damage to the museum won't delay my chances of viewing the airplane into a seventh year! all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com Hello Everyone: This is my very first post to a news group. (Please forgive any mistakes in posting.) I have been reading this group because I am an "airplane nut," a Blue Angels fan, and have great respect for the military. (Thank you to all of you who serve(d) our country.) I feel compelled to post now to express best wishes for the folks at NAS Pensacola and the NMNA as they recover from Hurricane Ivan damage. I first visited both when I attended the Blue Angels homecoming last November. I fell in love with Pensacola and even joined the museum. Like all of you, through Google searches, I am searching for information. I just read that the BA intend to perform at Salinas and Miramar. I called Miramar last Friday and a lady told me they have heard nothing about the possibility of the team cancelling. I am looking forward to attending the Miramar show next month. Also, an article says the BA are moving their base to New Orleans (I presume NAS JRB NO at Belle Chasse. I called NAS JRB NO to verify, but it was after 4:00, so no one answered.)I hope they can fly the New Orleans show scheduled for Oct. 23-24, because I plan to bring my 3 year old great nephew, who I am already training to love airplanes and the Blues. One must raise up these children right! Best wishes to all--Karen |
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Geez. One little grammatical mistake and I am keel-hauled.
Al Andrew C. Toppan wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:12:17 -0500, old hoodoo wrote: Some bad news. I looked at pics of the outside display aircraft and they appear to most probably were just have been tied down. They appear to were just have been tied down? Huh? Random verbs? -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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In article , old hoodoo
wrote: Here in Victoria we had an F-101 that when we got it, we prepared pads and metal supports to secure it and get the tires off the ground. Not a particularly difficult or expensive task. Victoria where? And where in that Victoria is it located? -john- -- ================================================== ================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ================== |
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In Victoria Texas. However the F-101 just got moved this summer to
Missouri after being here ten years. Bummer. I will never again dealt with City politicians. They have been on a crusade to get rid of all historical artifacts in the City. Lost a great Locomotive engine a couple of years ago. I'm moving eventually, historically speaking, this town sucks. Al John A. Weeks III wrote: In article , old hoodoo wrote: Here in Victoria we had an F-101 that when we got it, we prepared pads and metal supports to secure it and get the tires off the ground. Not a particularly difficult or expensive task. Victoria where? And where in that Victoria is it located? -john- |
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old hoodoo wrote:
In Victoria Texas. However the F-101 just got moved this summer to Missouri after being here ten years. Bummer. I will never again dealt with City politicians. They have been on a crusade to get rid of all historical artifacts in the City. Lost a great Locomotive engine a couple of years ago. I'm moving eventually, historically speaking, this town sucks. Al Really? To where in MO? There is an F-101 at Spirit of St Louis Airport, but that has been there several years. Am not familiar with any other locations here in the Show Me state. Thanks -- Lynn in StLou REMOVETHIS anti-spam measure to reply |
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