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Old January 4th 10, 10:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Hul Tytus
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rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again with
engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul
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Old January 4th 10, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_12_]
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Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again with
engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul


Custer channel wing?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old January 4th 10, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jim Logajan
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Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine
aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again
with engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A
vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul


Custer channel wing?


My thought also. Here are some links:

http://www.custerchannelwing.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn5JL9t_C4
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Old January 5th 10, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Jan 4, 3:26*pm, Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

* *Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again with
engines and props within the U.
* *When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul


Custer Channel Wing.

I made an RC model of one years ago. The darn thing would fly so slow
the flight controls couldn't get a grip on the air. Losing an engine
when flying that slow was catastrophic, however.
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Old January 6th 10, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ęslop
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine
aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again
with engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A
vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul


Custer channel wing?


My thought also. Here are some links:

http://www.custerchannelwing.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn5JL9t_C4


I would think that an engine out on takeoff would be about 100% fatal. Such
a huge difference in lift would cause an immediate wing over and spin.


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Old January 6th 10, 03:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
bildan
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On Jan 5, 8:26*pm, "Ęslop" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message

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Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings


* *Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine
* *aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again
with engines and props within the U.
* *When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A
* *vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.


Hul


* * Custer channel wing?


My thought also. Here are some links:


http://www.custerchannelwing.com/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn5JL9t_C4


I would think that an engine out on takeoff would be about 100% fatal. Such
a huge difference in lift would cause an immediate wing over and spin.


It's essentially a "blown wing" or "powered lift" aircraft. The only
way it would be even remotely safe is to link the props with a cross
shaft with Sprague clutches somewhat like the V-22 Osprey. That way
if one engine failed, both props continue to be powered. Even then it
could only be justified for special missions that needed the STOL
capability badly.

However, a single engine channel wing is possible.
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Old January 6th 10, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
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Default U shaped wings

In article , "Ęslop"
wrote:

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine
aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again
with engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A
vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul

Custer channel wing?


My thought also. Here are some links:

http://www.custerchannelwing.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn5JL9t_C4


I would think that an engine out on takeoff would be about 100% fatal. Such
a huge difference in lift would cause an immediate wing over and spin.


That is what effectively killed the Custer Channelwing.

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Old January 6th 10, 05:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jim Logajan
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bildan wrote:
However, a single engine channel wing is possible.


According to one of the pages on the custerchannelwing.com site, a German
company by the name of Rhein Flugseubau experimented with a single channel
wing variant called the RFV-1 in the 1960s:

http://www.custerchannelwing.com/05_dreams.html
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Old January 6th 10, 11:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Thanks Dan - Custer channel wing it was.

Hul

Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings

Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again with
engines and props within the U.
When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.

Hul


Custer channel wing?


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Old January 7th 10, 02:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dave[_22_]
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On Jan 5, 10:49*pm, bildan wrote:
On Jan 5, 8:26*pm, "Ęslop" wrote:





"Jim Logajan" wrote in message


. ..


Dan wrote:
Hul Tytus wrote:
rec.aviation.homebuilt
U shaped wings


* *Some time ago there was a magazine cover showing a twin engine
* *aircraft
with a U shape in each wing. The U's curved downward then up again
with engines and props within the U.
* *When did that occur and what magazine was that; anyone know? A
* *vague memory
points to popular mechanics or popular science.


Hul


* * Custer channel wing?


My thought also. Here are some links:


http://www.custerchannelwing.com/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sn5JL9t_C4


I would think that an engine out on takeoff would be about 100% fatal. Such
a huge difference in lift would cause an immediate wing over and spin.


It's essentially a "blown wing" or "powered lift" aircraft. *The only
way it would be even remotely safe is to link the props with a cross
shaft with Sprague clutches somewhat like the V-22 Osprey. *That way
if one engine failed, both props continue to be powered. *Even then it
could only be justified for special missions that needed the STOL
capability badly.

However, a single engine channel wing is possible.


Not exactly a Channel Wing, but this plane is a fully ducted wing
single: http://www.optica.co.uk/

Dave
 




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