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faa home study graduation certificate
Hi, thinking of getting my private license. Looking to do ground school
entirely at home, as I already am pretty familiar with most of the concepts covered by the FAA written test. FAA Rules say one can take the test with: e. A certificate of graduation from an aviation home study course developed by the aeronautical enterprise providing the study material. The certificate of graduation must correspond to the FAA written test for the certificate or rating sought. The aeronautical enterprise providing the course of study must also supply a comprehensive written test which can be scored as evidence that the student has completed the course of study. When the student satisfactorily completes the written test, it is sent to the course provider for scoring by an FAA certificated ground or flight instructor. The instructor evaluates the test and attests to the student's knowledge of the subjects presented in the course. Upon satisfactory completion, a graduation certificate is sent to the student. I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? That is, does their (or anybody's) home study course include a written test which you either send electronically, or by mail, or (best) is automatically graded and "signed" by the computer when you complete the test? I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). I've looked far and wide, and all the home study stuff is very coy about whether you can use their "certificates of graduation" to satisfy the above FAA rule. Thanks very much! |
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"Falky foo" wrote in message
. .. I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). A typical CFI fee is on the order of $40 per hour, which comes to much less than $70 for 15 seconds. FAR 61.103d (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2F925F6A) does require a CFI's signoff before you take the knowledge test. Typically, if you do self-study, the CFI will assess your readiness in the course of talking to you during your flight training (and will probably ask you to take a sample test as well), with little or no additional cost for the assessment and signoff. Also, there's no need to follow a program like Sporty's (unless you find it helpful); just reading a good textbook is sufficient. --Gary |
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Falky foo wrote:
I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? I don't know how Sporty's does it, but I took the Kings course once and after you do your final exam you call them and they send you a certificate rubber stamped with John King's signature. |
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While a CFI signoff is required, there is really no logic behind that
requirement (it might have had a logic when the written exams were offered for free by the FAA). If you can't find any CFI willing to sign you off, I am sure one of us here on this newsgroup will be willing to do it. There should not be any charge for this service as it only takes a few minutes to do, and whether you pass or fail does not reflect back on us. "Falky foo" wrote in : Hi, thinking of getting my private license. Looking to do ground school entirely at home, as I already am pretty familiar with most of the concepts covered by the FAA written test. FAA Rules say one can take the test with: e. A certificate of graduation from an aviation home study course developed by the aeronautical enterprise providing the study material. The certificate of graduation must correspond to the FAA written test for the certificate or rating sought. The aeronautical enterprise providing the course of study must also supply a comprehensive written test which can be scored as evidence that the student has completed the course of study. When the student satisfactorily completes the written test, it is sent to the course provider for scoring by an FAA certificated ground or flight instructor. The instructor evaluates the test and attests to the student's knowledge of the subjects presented in the course. Upon satisfactory completion, a graduation certificate is sent to the student. I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? That is, does their (or anybody's) home study course include a written test which you either send electronically, or by mail, or (best) is automatically graded and "signed" by the computer when you complete the test? I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). I've looked far and wide, and all the home study stuff is very coy about whether you can use their "certificates of graduation" to satisfy the above FAA rule. Thanks very much! |
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Even easier, Andrew, is to sign it off using your GROUND INSTRUCTOR
certificate (which is perfectly legit) so you don't have that 3 year recordkeeping requirement that a CFI has. Jim "Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message 1... While a CFI signoff is required, there is really no logic behind that requirement |
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I did my commercial this way using the ASA DVD's. After completing the
course I did two practice tests that were included, faxed the answers to ASA, and they faxed a signoff back to me (mailed the original). Good luck. "Falky foo" wrote in message . .. Hi, thinking of getting my private license. Looking to do ground school entirely at home, as I already am pretty familiar with most of the concepts covered by the FAA written test. FAA Rules say one can take the test with: e. A certificate of graduation from an aviation home study course developed by the aeronautical enterprise providing the study material. The certificate of graduation must correspond to the FAA written test for the certificate or rating sought. The aeronautical enterprise providing the course of study must also supply a comprehensive written test which can be scored as evidence that the student has completed the course of study. When the student satisfactorily completes the written test, it is sent to the course provider for scoring by an FAA certificated ground or flight instructor. The instructor evaluates the test and attests to the student's knowledge of the subjects presented in the course. Upon satisfactory completion, a graduation certificate is sent to the student. I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? That is, does their (or anybody's) home study course include a written test which you either send electronically, or by mail, or (best) is automatically graded and "signed" by the computer when you complete the test? I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). I've looked far and wide, and all the home study stuff is very coy about whether you can use their "certificates of graduation" to satisfy the above FAA rule. Thanks very much! |
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All the people I've talked to in San Diego want $70 to sign it, since I
don't have someone I'm taking regular lessons from at this time. "Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... "Falky foo" wrote in message . .. I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). A typical CFI fee is on the order of $40 per hour, which comes to much less than $70 for 15 seconds. FAR 61.103d (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2F925F6A) does require a CFI's signoff before you take the knowledge test. Typically, if you do self-study, the CFI will assess your readiness in the course of talking to you during your flight training (and will probably ask you to take a sample test as well), with little or no additional cost for the assessment and signoff. Also, there's no need to follow a program like Sporty's (unless you find it helpful); just reading a good textbook is sufficient. --Gary |
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All right, cool. I'll give it a shot. Thanks very much. I'd be happy to
pay a reasonable fee for it but everybody here wants $70 to do it.. why $70 I don't know but that seems a little high. Thanks again! "RST Engineering" wrote in message ... Even easier, Andrew, is to sign it off using your GROUND INSTRUCTOR certificate (which is perfectly legit) so you don't have that 3 year recordkeeping requirement that a CFI has. Jim "Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message 1... While a CFI signoff is required, there is really no logic behind that requirement |
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Gliems home study course will print the certificate on your computer when
you answer all the questions correctly, no other contact needed. Or at least it used to. BT "Falky foo" wrote in message . .. Hi, thinking of getting my private license. Looking to do ground school entirely at home, as I already am pretty familiar with most of the concepts covered by the FAA written test. FAA Rules say one can take the test with: e. A certificate of graduation from an aviation home study course developed by the aeronautical enterprise providing the study material. The certificate of graduation must correspond to the FAA written test for the certificate or rating sought. The aeronautical enterprise providing the course of study must also supply a comprehensive written test which can be scored as evidence that the student has completed the course of study. When the student satisfactorily completes the written test, it is sent to the course provider for scoring by an FAA certificated ground or flight instructor. The instructor evaluates the test and attests to the student's knowledge of the subjects presented in the course. Upon satisfactory completion, a graduation certificate is sent to the student. I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? That is, does their (or anybody's) home study course include a written test which you either send electronically, or by mail, or (best) is automatically graded and "signed" by the computer when you complete the test? I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). I've looked far and wide, and all the home study stuff is very coy about whether you can use their "certificates of graduation" to satisfy the above FAA rule. Thanks very much! |
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I believe Gleim still does it, but you have to pay for the software,
which I think is more than the $70. "BTIZ" wrote in news:83yOd.9044$Tt.8973@fed1read05: Gliems home study course will print the certificate on your computer when you answer all the questions correctly, no other contact needed. Or at least it used to. BT "Falky foo" wrote in message . .. Hi, thinking of getting my private license. Looking to do ground school entirely at home, as I already am pretty familiar with most of the concepts covered by the FAA written test. FAA Rules say one can take the test with: e. A certificate of graduation from an aviation home study course developed by the aeronautical enterprise providing the study material. The certificate of graduation must correspond to the FAA written test for the certificate or rating sought. The aeronautical enterprise providing the course of study must also supply a comprehensive written test which can be scored as evidence that the student has completed the course of study. When the student satisfactorily completes the written test, it is sent to the course provider for scoring by an FAA certificated ground or flight instructor. The instructor evaluates the test and attests to the student's knowledge of the subjects presented in the course. Upon satisfactory completion, a graduation certificate is sent to the student. I've been looking at Sporty's home study thing. Does anybody know if they do the CFI signoff/ graduation certificate themselves? That is, does their (or anybody's) home study course include a written test which you either send electronically, or by mail, or (best) is automatically graded and "signed" by the computer when you complete the test? I'm trying to avoid giving a CFI $70 so that he can spend 15 seconds looking at my answers and signing off on the test (sorry CFIs). I've looked far and wide, and all the home study stuff is very coy about whether you can use their "certificates of graduation" to satisfy the above FAA rule. Thanks very much! |
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