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OK, what the hell has happened to the Brits?
Now the British airline pilots are considering refusingto fly if there is an
armed security guard on a flight, citing the danger of a gunshot in a pressurized airliner. http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukresponse...863275,00.html What? Are they using "Goldfinger" as a training film there now? Or has hoplophobia just turned their minds to goo? Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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Wdtabor wrote: Now the British airline pilots are considering refusingto fly if there is an armed security guard on a flight, citing the danger of a gunshot in a pressurized airliner. http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukresponse...863275,00.html Are they using "Goldfinger" as a training film there now? Or has hoplophobia just turned their minds to goo? I think there are two issues in play. 1) No one is happy that the US is basically issuing an order to other nations. 2) Most of the EU nations (and people raises in them) are VERY anti-gun (to the point of being afriad of guns, that is fear of the object itself). |
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Didnt you know? When a bullet punctures a window, it blows out and all the
people get sucked out - unless they hang on to a chair, in which case you flap like a flag in the wind until your fingers give out... "Wdtabor" wrote in message ... Now the British airline pilots are considering refusingto fly if there is an armed security guard on a flight, citing the danger of a gunshot in a pressurized airliner. http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukresponse...863275,00.html What? Are they using "Goldfinger" as a training film there now? Or has hoplophobia just turned their minds to goo? Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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Now the British airline pilots are considering refusingto fly if there is an armed security guard on a flight, citing the danger of a gunshot in a pressurized airliner. I was driving home from Cannon Mountain yesterday afternoon, and listening to NRP (National Partisan Radio) as I went. The subject of air marshals came up. The Talking Head was a London-based security consultant. He said in effect: "You don't want guns on aircraft at 30,000 feet. The air marshals have frangible bullets, of course. But what's to stop the terrorist from getting into a shootout with the air marshal? The terrorist won't have frangible bullets. Then you have the specter of a bullet piercing the airplane's skin, explosion decompression and all that entails, even unto passengers being sucked out of the aircraft." The statement, of course, went unchallenged by the host. all the best -- Dan Ford email: see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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On 30 Dec 2003 20:16:01 GMT, Wdtabor wrote:
2) Most of the EU nations (and people raises in them) are VERY anti-gun (to the point of being afriad of guns, that is fear of the object itself). I see no reason for the US to cater to the mental diseases of Europeans. And what is the mental disease here? I can't follow you there. Or do you mean you are only sane when carrying a weapon? fear of an inanimate object carried by an officer of the law *is* delusional. I avoid everybody carrying a weapon. And as long as I can decide it (!) nobody with a weapon is entering my house, my office or sitting in my car. And I turn away from everybody carrying a weapon, I also avoid beeing too close to cops carrying a weapon. What the hell happened to the people who won the Battle of Britain? they awakend? #m -- harsh regulations in North Korea (read below link after reading the story): http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/04/open-mikulan.php oooops ... sorry ... it happened in the USA, ya know: the land of the free. |
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Cub Driver wrote:
I was driving home from Cannon Mountain yesterday afternoon, and listening to NRP (National Partisan Radio) as I went. The subject of air marshals came up. The Talking Head was a London-based security consultant. He said in effect: "You don't want guns on aircraft at 30,000 feet. The air marshals have frangible bullets, of course. But what's to stop the terrorist from getting into a shootout with the air marshal? The terrorist won't have frangible bullets. Then you have the specter of a bullet piercing the airplane's skin, explosion decompression and all that entails, even unto passengers being sucked out of the aircraft." The statement, of course, went unchallenged by the host. What would you challenge? The fact that you don't want guns on board? The possibility of explosive decompression? I have seen it said that a bullet hole through the skin would not cause explosive decompression. I can believe that is true if it is a small hole, from relatively perpendicular to the skin. What if the bullet was at a shallow angle to the skin however, as if it had been fired along the cabin? Then I would imagine the hole would be more like a long tear, and explosive decompression seems more likely. There is a lot of pressure there, remember Comets, JAL, Aloha airlines etc. |
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I have seen it said that a bullet hole through the skin would not cause explosive decompression. I can believe that is true if it is a small hole, from relatively perpendicular to the skin. What if the bullet was at a shallow angle to the skin however, as if it had been fired along the cabin? Then I would imagine the hole would be more like a long tear, and explosive decompression seems more likely. If the bullet hits the s in at a shallow angle, there will be much less force perpendicular to the skin, and it will be less likely to be punctured. The bullet will just ricochet. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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