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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil



 
 
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Old October 16th 07, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Margy Natalie
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Morgans wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote in message


Hee hee hee I flew a JET!



Congrats! Way cool!


He recently aquired a Harrier and hopefully will have it on the airshow
circut soon. He's a really nice guy with really cool planes.



A really nice guy with deep pockets, I would guess. You would have to have
a "few" surplus bucks around, JUST to pay the fuel bill for either of those
planes! :-)

Former Marine turned DC developer I believe. Nice guy!
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Old October 16th 07, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Margy Natalie
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Jay Honeck wrote:


I do get comp time, but somehow getting a Thurday off
doesn't really make up for working a Saturday night, if you know what I
mean.



Hey, Thursday (when I actually get it off) is my "Sunday". I *love*
having non-weekend days off -- no crowds anywhere.

And I work *every* Saturday, so suck it up!

:-)

But all the fly-ins are on Saturdays ...
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Old October 16th 07, 11:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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And, I'll bet you don't get to make many fly ins since most are geared
to folks that have Sat/Sun off work...that would be the BIG downside for
me!!

Scott


Jay Honeck wrote:




Hey, Thursday (when I actually get it off) is my "Sunday". I *love*
having non-weekend days off -- no crowds anywhere.

And I work *every* Saturday, so suck it up!

:-)



There you have it.


Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Scott
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Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
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Old October 17th 07, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans[_2_]
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"Margy Natalie" wrote

Former Marine turned DC developer I believe. Nice guy!


Well, it's good to hear that nice guys don't always finish last!
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 17th 07, 07:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:16:34 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Oh...THAT's killer! You work for the same government that mandated O.T.
pay. Sometimes I just love the way our government works..."It's OK for



Only for the hourly folk. Us professionals are paid so much a month,
once a month. :-))

Roger (K8RI)

us to make rules to protect our citizens from getting screwed, but we're
going to screw our own employees." That figures! Thanks for
hanging in there and clarifying

Margy Natalie wrote:

Scott wrote:

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

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Old October 17th 07, 07:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:39:16 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:

Scott wrote:
I think I'd rather have my office IN an SR-71

I was never a big fan of comp time...especially when the boss was the
one who decided which day he would give you as comp time

Scott


We luck out there. The boss doesn't decide the comp time although he


Officially we didn't have comp time and vacation was use it or lose
it, BUT they quietly made an exception for us computer folk. Most of
us would come wandering in around 10:00 AM and go home around 4:00 to
make up for it. If we worked Saturday and Sunday the odds were pretty
good we'd miss a couple of days within the next couple of weeks. The
plant manager's secretary sent me a nasty note explaining what
flexible hours were and I needed to change my ways. I gave the letter
to my boss and volunteered to work 8:00 to 4:30, but I might be hard
to find after hours. He told me to keep doing as I was and he'd
explain how many hours I really worked each week. Just make sure I was
there for any scheduled meetings. It didn't hurt that I was up the
food chain a ways, worked for corporate, and had offices at two
different plants. After 7 years I retired with them owing me for over
90 some days of vacation, and I had taken the last full week off to
spend at Oshkosh. That 90 plus days made a real nice retirement check.
I retired out on the flight line. :-))

has to approve it. I try to stack it up for a long weekend. He doesn't


We just worked as needed with no approval required .

Roger (K8RI)

really like it (says I'll burn out with some of the weeks I work), but
he approves it. Of course if I don't use it by the end of the calendar
year it turns to dust, and the office needs to be covered Xmas week, and
we all earn a bunch before and during major events in the fall ...

Margy

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Old October 18th 07, 03:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Oct 15, 12:34 am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:

working from home. horrors, perish the thought.


The best thing about working from home, is you are at home when you
are at work.

The worst thing about working form home, is you are at work when you
are at home.

no cultural stimulation.


Only if you so desire.

bugger all new technology.


Only if you are a cheap bugger.

everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.


All the profits (and savings) you make, you get to keep for yourself.


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Old October 22nd 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On 2007-10-14 00:39:27 -0600, said:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.


Nevertheless, NASA is committed to developing the advanced technology
to make flying an airplane as easy and safe as driving a car, if not
more so. Modern glass panel avionics are one part of that. The Adam is
based on the ideas developed in this program.

It is going to happen -- if GA manages to survive until then.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old October 25th 07, 12:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:22:54 -0600, C J Campbell
wrote:

On 2007-10-14 00:39:27 -0600, said:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of


They could with the work NASA is doing, BUT *affordable* is a horse of
a different color.

skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.


It would be possible even with today's technology to build an airplane
that could be programmed, or automated to fly from point A to B and
far easier than with cars. The resulting aircraft would, or could
require far less skill than required of today's pilots.

The most difficult to implement and expensive parts lie at each end
of the trip as well as with traffic control.

OTOH like anything that says "airplane" on it, I don't see it becoming
economical.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.


The question is how many could routinely do this and to what extent
would it reduce automobile usage? When you get right down to it, only
a small percent of the work force can work from home. Even office and
data management work can not all be done from home. Yes, a lot of
communications can take place via the Internet/electronically, but
there still needs to be a face-to-face interaction between workers as
well as workers and management.

I used to do a bit more than half my work from home. (Sys admin,
Developmental Analyst, and finally project manager) HOWEVER that
didn't result in less driving. I spent less time at the plants and
corporate headquarters, but I still had to be there nearly every day.
I had to be there often enough they owed me over 90 days of vacation
when I retired.


Nevertheless, NASA is committed to developing the advanced technology
to make flying an airplane as easy and safe as driving a car, if not
more so. Modern glass panel avionics are one part of that. The Adam is
based on the ideas developed in this program.

It is going to happen -- if GA manages to survive until then.


I have no doubt they can do it. It could be done with today's
technology, but I have my doubts that it can be made practical and
economical.

Roger (K8RI)
 




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