Why do I Fly? (LONG)

You know, this may come across drippy sweet, but who cares....

This past week has been such a rewarding time in my little part of the
aviation world.

The selfish part.....

When I preflight, I hope people see me.
When I slowly trundle down the taxiway for departure, I hope people see
me.
When I make my call up on the radio, I hope people hear me in the FBO.
When I lift off in the blue wild yonder, I hope people driving along
the road at the end of the runway see me.
When I am enroute, I hope people see me when they look up
When I am on final, I hope people look up from a subdivision and see me
When I tie down, I hope people see me.

Now you may ask, just why I hope such things. I am privileged to be a
part of an elite group that can do something just short of
supernatural.

We weren't built to fly folks, and that itself is an amazing
accomplishment, that we were given the rights to share what nature does
naturally.

So, my selfish self hopes that the people that sees me do the so called
mundane things of aviation wondering just where am I going, envious
that I am doing something that they wish they can do.

It's truly magic to see the edge of earth on severe clear days.
It's truly magic to have the privilege of floating along at 110 knots
7,500 feet above a broken cloud deck.
It's truly magic to enter IMC from above, sunny as can be to descend
down to 200 AGL, break out to a runway lined up below me, with dreary,
rainy conditions.
It's truly magic on night flights to see more lights in the sky then on
the ground.

Now, don't get me wrong I am really not that selfish, and my reason for
loving to fly IS FOR MY UNSELFISH PART OF ME AS I AM LEARNING THIS PAST
WEEK.

The Unselfish part of me.....

I was out this past week at the airport, needing to get night current.
I do my jig, fly out to the wild blue yonder, watch ole sol set below
the horizon from front rows seats at 3500 feet, and when the ball of
fire sank below the horizon, I returned back to the airport and did my
touch and goes, stop and goes and so forth. I tie down the plane and
await my ride from the airport (My wife went to church probably to pray
for me) *big smile*.

So, here I am waiting. and this elderly gentleman came walking up to
visit. I learned he takes a walk around the ramp every day, 2 times a
day. Got to chatting with him, he learns I fly, and owns a plane. He
asked me which one, and I point it out to him. I asked if he wanted to
peek inside, and this was like lighting a fire under him.

We walk out, I open the door, and he climbs in with no assistance. We
sit in the plane, I ask if he flew, which he did his first flight in a
J2 Cub IN 1939. Compared to what he started with, my instrument panel
must have looked like an airliner panel. I could tell, just by sitting
in this plane with a man I never met, that I have touched a part of
him, as watching him from the soft glow of the flashlight, he was
re-living his flying days from the J2 Cub to a B52 bomber.

He just sat there, like he was home.......

I was in no hurry to move along, as I could see his eyes light up. He
was very computer literate, and had never seen a panel mounted GPS, so
when I put on the avionics, it just incredulized him on how much
aviation has progressed. We sat in my plane for about 45 minutes
flying higher then the plane's capability and we never left the ground.


My wife pulls up to the plane in her car, and the gentleman needed a
little assistance getting out of the plane. Being a low wing, it's
fully understandable considering your feet are lower then the wing and
pulling one's self up would be difficult. Once up, he got off the wing
without assistance.

Why I make such big ado, is that this gentleman was 87 years old!!!

He stopped flying 10 years ago due to his eyesight. Could have fooled
me, as he sure moved around without eyeglasses and had no problem
seeing at night that I could see!

Unfriggin believable...... I hope I have 1/10 his spunk at 67 years old
much less at 87!!!

Continuing on....... fast forward to our next generation. Had a great
opportunity to share more aviation with our younger ones. Friend of
mine called me up and said would I want to fly to Cleveland MS for a
$100 hamburger. I would meet him at the local airport, he would rent a
plane and we would fly in tandem. He had two daughters, one would ride
up with him, and the other would ride with me, and we would reverse
them on the trip home.

Now, don't get me wrong, kids are not interested in preflight, they are
not interested in the mechanics of flight, as in today's generation,
it's just another form of transportation.

But they are fascinated with interacting with the airplane when put to
the task. I went over the basics of the controls previously, and
showed them the "important" instruments, and they knew when I said
their control, they take over. Well......

Imagine climbing out at 1000 feet, saying to a young one, your
controls, and their eyes light up like beacons in the night. I told
both of the young ones, that once I give them the controls, they are to
take me to the destination airport as I gave them all the tools they
needed.

Imagine their looks as we climb through a scattered strato cumulus
cloud deck up to 7,500 and break out of the haze at 6,500 to the
deepest blue skies God could paint.

Imagine their reactions as we pass over the cloud deck, with the tops
zipping by like there is not a care in the world.

Imagine their reactions as we slalom around the clouds to maintain VFR
flight rules on our descent to terra firma

Flight quality, suffice it to say, we didn't make it to our destination
in breakneck speed, we didn't maintain PTS standards in headings on the
climb, but did I care, nope, not at all, just wanted the kids to
interact with the plane on their level, just wanted them to enjoy
having the ability to have control of something in their lives.

We level off to flight altitude, I would help trim the plane, and they
still had to navigate to the airport and to up the anti, I would have
them find the airport and fly to their "perceived airport".

Just watching them interact, encouraging them, it's ok to look out the
window......

What I hope we all can do.....

Taking from a movie title "Pay it Forward"...

We "Pay it Forward" to our younger generation, and "pay it back" to our
older generation.

We owe to ourselves and those around us......

We are very privileged people in our corner of the world, and we cannot
forget that as long as we are on the topside of where the green grass
grows!

Allen

We are very privileged people in our corner of the world, and we cannot
forget that as long as we are on the topside of where the green grass
grows!

Amen, Allen. Well put.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Just to pick a small nit, but to the subject of nite currency.....
Unless the rules (61.57b)have changed, you can't just wait for sunset. Need
to go one hour PAST sunset before flying the 3 full stop TO's and landings
wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, this may come across drippy sweet, but who cares....

This past week has been such a rewarding time in my little part of the
aviation world.

The selfish part.....

When I preflight, I hope people see me.
When I slowly trundle down the taxiway for departure, I hope people see
me.
When I make my call up on the radio, I hope people hear me in the FBO.
When I lift off in the blue wild yonder, I hope people driving along
the road at the end of the runway see me.
When I am enroute, I hope people see me when they look up
When I am on final, I hope people look up from a subdivision and see me
When I tie down, I hope people see me.

Now you may ask, just why I hope such things. I am privileged to be a
part of an elite group that can do something just short of
supernatural.

We weren't built to fly folks, and that itself is an amazing
accomplishment, that we were given the rights to share what nature does
naturally.

So, my selfish self hopes that the people that sees me do the so called
mundane things of aviation wondering just where am I going, envious
that I am doing something that they wish they can do.

It's truly magic to see the edge of earth on severe clear days.
It's truly magic to have the privilege of floating along at 110 knots
7,500 feet above a broken cloud deck.
It's truly magic to enter IMC from above, sunny as can be to descend
down to 200 AGL, break out to a runway lined up below me, with dreary,
rainy conditions.
It's truly magic on night flights to see more lights in the sky then on
the ground.

Now, don't get me wrong I am really not that selfish, and my reason for
loving to fly IS FOR MY UNSELFISH PART OF ME AS I AM LEARNING THIS PAST
WEEK.

The Unselfish part of me.....

I was out this past week at the airport, needing to get night current.
I do my jig, fly out to the wild blue yonder, watch ole sol set below
the horizon from front rows seats at 3500 feet, and when the ball of
fire sank below the horizon, I returned back to the airport and did my
touch and goes, stop and goes and so forth. I tie down the plane and
await my ride from the airport (My wife went to church probably to pray
for me) *big smile*.

So, here I am waiting. and this elderly gentleman came walking up to
visit. I learned he takes a walk around the ramp every day, 2 times a
day. Got to chatting with him, he learns I fly, and owns a plane. He
asked me which one, and I point it out to him. I asked if he wanted to
peek inside, and this was like lighting a fire under him.

We walk out, I open the door, and he climbs in with no assistance. We
sit in the plane, I ask if he flew, which he did his first flight in a
J2 Cub IN 1939. Compared to what he started with, my instrument panel
must have looked like an airliner panel. I could tell, just by sitting
in this plane with a man I never met, that I have touched a part of
him, as watching him from the soft glow of the flashlight, he was
re-living his flying days from the J2 Cub to a B52 bomber.

He just sat there, like he was home.......

I was in no hurry to move along, as I could see his eyes light up. He
was very computer literate, and had never seen a panel mounted GPS, so
when I put on the avionics, it just incredulized him on how much
aviation has progressed. We sat in my plane for about 45 minutes
flying higher then the plane's capability and we never left the ground.


My wife pulls up to the plane in her car, and the gentleman needed a
little assistance getting out of the plane. Being a low wing, it's
fully understandable considering your feet are lower then the wing and
pulling one's self up would be difficult. Once up, he got off the wing
without assistance.

Why I make such big ado, is that this gentleman was 87 years old!!!

He stopped flying 10 years ago due to his eyesight. Could have fooled
me, as he sure moved around without eyeglasses and had no problem
seeing at night that I could see!

Unfriggin believable...... I hope I have 1/10 his spunk at 67 years old
much less at 87!!!

Continuing on....... fast forward to our next generation. Had a great
opportunity to share more aviation with our younger ones. Friend of
mine called me up and said would I want to fly to Cleveland MS for a
$100 hamburger. I would meet him at the local airport, he would rent a
plane and we would fly in tandem. He had two daughters, one would ride
up with him, and the other would ride with me, and we would reverse
them on the trip home.

Now, don't get me wrong, kids are not interested in preflight, they are
not interested in the mechanics of flight, as in today's generation,
it's just another form of transportation.

But they are fascinated with interacting with the airplane when put to
the task. I went over the basics of the controls previously, and
showed them the "important" instruments, and they knew when I said
their control, they take over. Well......

Imagine climbing out at 1000 feet, saying to a young one, your
controls, and their eyes light up like beacons in the night. I told
both of the young ones, that once I give them the controls, they are to
take me to the destination airport as I gave them all the tools they
needed.

Imagine their looks as we climb through a scattered strato cumulus
cloud deck up to 7,500 and break out of the haze at 6,500 to the
deepest blue skies God could paint.

Imagine their reactions as we pass over the cloud deck, with the tops
zipping by like there is not a care in the world.

Imagine their reactions as we slalom around the clouds to maintain VFR
flight rules on our descent to terra firma

Flight quality, suffice it to say, we didn't make it to our destination
in breakneck speed, we didn't maintain PTS standards in headings on the
climb, but did I care, nope, not at all, just wanted the kids to
interact with the plane on their level, just wanted them to enjoy
having the ability to have control of something in their lives.

We level off to flight altitude, I would help trim the plane, and they
still had to navigate to the airport and to up the anti, I would have
them find the airport and fly to their "perceived airport".

Just watching them interact, encouraging them, it's ok to look out the
window......

What I hope we all can do.....

Taking from a movie title "Pay it Forward"...

We "Pay it Forward" to our younger generation, and "pay it back" to our
older generation.

We owe to ourselves and those around us......

We are very privileged people in our corner of the world, and we cannot
forget that as long as we are on the topside of where the green grass
grows!

Allen

pgbnh wrote:
Just to pick a small nit, but to the subject of nite currency.....
Unless the rules (61.57b)have changed, you can't just wait for sunset. Need
to go one hour PAST sunset before flying the 3 full stop TO's and landings

So, let me guess.....

You are IFR rated.....
You do an ILS approach in solid IMC, and break out 400 AGL.
Not a countable approach by FAA standards since I didn't take it to
minimums only on instruments.

You won't count it as an approach?

Suffice it to say, I will in my logs, not so much for the definition,
but for the fact that I stay proficient.

Needless to say, after 8 landings 15 minutes after the sun set below
the horizon (mix of touch and goes and stop and goes), I feel
comfortable to say I am night proficient and current.

Gimme a break, the sole purpose of the post was to share a positive
experience, not nit pick about FAA regs.

Allen

Needless to say, after 8 landings 15 minutes after the sun set below
the horizon (mix of touch and goes and stop and goes), I feel
comfortable to say I am night proficient and current.

Actually, it's a lot darker an hour after sunset than it is fifteen minutes after sunset.

Jose
--
There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

if he started 15 minutes after sunset.. and did 8 landings.. it was very
dark for his last 3..
actually a smart way to approach the recurrency issue..

just don't log "night" time until 30 mintues after "official sunset" in most
areas of the lower 48

BT

"Jose" wrote in message
m...
Needless to say, after 8 landings 15 minutes after the sun set below
the horizon (mix of touch and goes and stop and goes), I feel
comfortable to say I am night proficient and current.

Actually, it's a lot darker an hour after sunset than it is fifteen
minutes after sunset.

Jose
--
There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

wrote in message
oups.com...
So, let me guess.....

You are IFR rated.....
You do an ILS approach in solid IMC, and break out 400 AGL.
Not a countable approach by FAA standards since I didn't take it to
minimums only on instruments.

You won't count it as an approach?

The FAA does not require an approach to minimums to be useful for instrument
currency. But if it did, is it really so unreasonable to expect pilots to
comply with federal regulations?

Suffice it to say, I will in my logs, not so much for the definition,
but for the fact that I stay proficient.

Needless to say, after 8 landings 15 minutes after the sun set below
the horizon (mix of touch and goes and stop and goes), I feel
comfortable to say I am night proficient and current.

And if you've made three of those landings and three of those takeoffs at
least one hour after sunset (or some equivalent combination within the last
90 days), you can say so ("current", that is) truthfully.

Gimme a break, the sole purpose of the post was to share a positive
experience, not nit pick about FAA regs.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Cliches aside, you cannot expect to post an article to this newsgroup and
not have it read. If it is read, you cannot expect errors to be ignored.
And you have certainly made an error if you think any takeoffs or landings
done prior to one hour after sunset count toward your night currency
requirement.

Whether they are useful for proficiency is a completely different matter. I
agree that you can gain beneficial practice even before the one hour after
sunset cut-off. But that doesn't make it applicable for the currency
requirement, and that's all the self-admitted nit-pick was commenting on.
No reason to get your shorts in a twist over a valid, truthful, and
inoffensive comment.

Pete

wrote in message
oups.com...
You are IFR rated.....
You do an ILS approach in solid IMC, and break out 400 AGL.
Not a countable approach by FAA standards since I didn't take it to
minimums only on instruments.

What leads you to believe that that doesn't count as an approach by FAA
standards?

--Gary

What leads you to believe that that doesn't count as an approach by FAA
standards?

Guess I needed correction :-)

For actual conditions, you don't have to go to minimums, but you must
be IMC when you initiate the approach. For simulated conditions, you
*should* go to minimums.

Taken from #4 at
http://www.rodmachado.com/Articles/L...light_Time.htm

ANSWER #4
Greetings Terrance :
In the May-June 1982 issue of Flight Forum , the FAA said, "...In order
to log approaches toward IFR currency, the approaches must be carried
at least through the so-called critical elements. This could include
conducting the approach to a landing, to the minimum altitude and\or
missed approach point, or through the approved missed approach
procedure."

In regard to breaking out from IMC to VMC on the approach, here's what
the FAA had to say in their July-August 1990 issue of Flight Forum .
"...Once you have been cleared for and have initiated an instrument
approach in IMC, you may log that approach for instrument currency,
regardless of the altitude at which you break out of the clouds. When
doing a simulated IFR approach you should fly the prescribed instrument
approach procedure to DH or MDA to maximize the training benefit."

Since you didn't begin your approach in IMC, you can't log that
approach towards meeting the instrument currency (recent flight
experience) requirements.

This is what drives me crazy about r.a.p. and why I frequently don't
post all that much.

Here is a nice story, well written and which I enjoyed reading.
And then the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to start pouncing
on this or that, obviously loosing the forest for the trees. While
others debate their interpretation of the FAR's (or the CFR part 91,
blah, blah, blah).

Geez, give the guy a break.

Ryan