Aeronautical Engineer says Official 9/11 Story Not Possible

Dan wrote in news:fjXLf.27320$Ug4.323@dukeread12:

TRUTH wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Truth,

Man, there is one thing I envy you for: the amount of TIME you must
have at your disposal. A pity you waste it liek this, though.



at present, I do have an abundance of time

Fired from your job or incarcerated?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired





Perhaps I was sent on a mission from God, like Bush...


LONDON GUARDIAN:
George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...586978,00.html

TRUTH wrote:

How many times do you need to have it explained to you that there
was
no need for any of them to be instrument trained ? Flying in clear
skies does not require an instrument rating.

Graham

At 30,000 feet it does

No. Take it from the experts. They are here in this group. The only
purpos of an instrument rating on a clear day at 30,000 feet is to be
legal. A terrorist couldn't care less.

Okay, I admit I don't have the qualifications for this. What I do know is
what an aeronautical engineer has said. (He's also qualified to fly large
aircralf.) I consider him an expert.

Can I please direct you here ? ( the federal aviation regulations )

http://www.gofir.com/fars/part125/

Perhaps you would be good enough to finally acknowledge that an instrument
rating is not a necessity just to simply fly a large aircraft ?

Graham

Pooh Bear wrote:

TRUTH wrote:

How many times do you need to have it explained to you that there
was
no need for any of them to be instrument trained ? Flying in clear
skies does not require an instrument rating.

Graham
At 30,000 feet it does
No. Take it from the experts. They are here in this group. The only
purpos of an instrument rating on a clear day at 30,000 feet is to be
legal. A terrorist couldn't care less.
Okay, I admit I don't have the qualifications for this. What I do know is
what an aeronautical engineer has said. (He's also qualified to fly large
aircralf.) I consider him an expert.

Can I please direct you here ? ( the federal aviation regulations )

http://www.gofir.com/fars/part125/

Perhaps you would be good enough to finally acknowledge that an instrument
rating is not a necessity just to simply fly a large aircraft ?

Graham



He won't because the obvious has eluded him all along assuming he's
ever flown in a commercial airliner. At 30 kilofeet on a clear day you
can look down from your passenger seat and recognize landmarks. It would
disturb him to have to actually admit another flaw in his "logic."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"TRUTH" wrote in message
...
Dan wrote in news:fjXLf.27320$Ug4.323@dukeread12:

TRUTH wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Truth,

Man, there is one thing I envy you for: the amount of TIME you must
have at your disposal. A pity you waste it liek this, though.



at present, I do have an abundance of time

Fired from your job or incarcerated?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired





Perhaps I was sent on a mission from God, like Bush...


LONDON GUARDIAN:
George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...586978,00.html

Thank you for demonstrating why The Guardian is not a credible news source.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/abb...563027485.html

"Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has denied an account by another
Palestinian official of a meeting with US President George Bush in which
Bush is cited as saying he believed that God told him to go to war in
Afghanistan and Iraq. "

"This report is not true," the Abbas statement said today. "I have never
heard President Bush talking about religion as a reason behind the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan. President Bush has never mentioned that in front of me
on any occasion and specifically not during my visit in 2003."

Try again.

Paul Nixon

In article ,
TRUTH wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote in
(snipped)

Look, dimbulb: THIS aeronautical engineer (with 40 years experience in
field, BTW) and pilot (of 45 year experience) says that your source
doesn't know what he is talking about; furthermore, it is irrelevant
whether or not he is an "aeronautical engineer".

I have worked with a whole spectrum of aero engineers -- their
aeronautical knowledge has ranged from superior to abysmal -- your guy
falls into the latter category.

Your posting and the answers you have received fall into the category
of, "If you aren't going to like the answer, don't ask the question."
You have asked the question in an aviation newsgroup and gotten a
unanimous answer: you are full of ****!


Well......it's obvious from the way you present yourself, that you are an
over emotional hot-head. Therefore you obviously cannot be trusted to
look at information objectively and clearly.

No -- I just have little patience for fools who conjure up all kinds of
cockamamie scenarios in order to feed their pet fantasies. I have
examined the "expert sources" that "TRUTH" dragged up and have found
them all wanting. He reminds me of somebody that has a whole room full
of defective or broken engine parts (cracked cylinders, worn cams and
crankshafts, worn out pistons, tec.) and assembles them into a "complete
engine" and then offers it for sale on ebay.

I have heard the term, but I have never encountered a schlemazzel before
I encountered "TRUTH" on the Usenet.

As I posted -- if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the
question. "TRUTH" came into this NG expecting somebody


BTW.... You think bin Laden admitted to 9/11?

Yes. So did al-Zawahiri and Moussaui.

Here's five Osamas:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/binladen8.jpg

Osama "E" admitted to 9/11 on videotape. Even Mr Magoo can tell that is
not bin Ladin.


Why? Does "TRUTH" know him personally (Osama or Mr. Magoo)?


The video is archived on National Public Radio's website here

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/res...213.binladen.t
ape.html


In that video, he writes with his right hand, when the FBI's website says
he's left handed.
He wears a gold ring, which is forbidden in Islam.


How do we know that he isn't ambidextrous? Killing innocent people is
also forbidden in Islam, but that didn't stop Osama.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

In article ,
mrtravel wrote:

TRUTH wrote:
mrtravel wrote in news:lizLf.39501$H71.28236
@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:

Didn't the engineer's article mention clouds over West Virginia?

Was the WTC in WV?

The supposed hijacking did not occur near the WTC

When they arrived at WTC, were there clouds?

No -- the weather was "severe clear" over the entire East Coast of the
US, as I have pointed out earlier.

In article ,
TRUTH wrote:

Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Truth,

How many times do you need to have it explained to you that there
was
no need for any of them to be instrument trained ? Flying in clear
skies does not require an instrument rating.

Graham





At 30,000 feet it does


No. Take it from the experts. They are here in this group. The only
purpos of an instrument rating on a clear day at 30,000 feet is to be
legal. A terrorist couldn't care less.



Okay, I admit I don't have the qualifications for this. What I do know is
what an aeronautical engineer has said. (He's also qualified to fly large
aircralf.) I consider him an expert.

He isn't. Neither does his name show up in the US pilot data base
(conclusion: He is a fraud).

So, why don't you accept the assessment of other, more experienced
engineers and pilots?

In article ,
TRUTH wrote:

Dan wrote in news:fjXLf.27320$Ug4.323@dukeread12:

TRUTH wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Truth,

Man, there is one thing I envy you for: the amount of TIME you must
have at your disposal. A pity you waste it liek this, though.



at present, I do have an abundance of time

Fired from your job or incarcerated?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired





Perhaps I was sent on a mission from God, like Bush...

How do you know that it was *God* speaking, and not the Devil?

TRUTH wrote:
BTW.... You think bin Laden admitted to 9/11?


Here's five Osamas:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/binladen8.jpg

Osama "E" admitted to 9/11 on videotape. Even Mr Magoo can tell that is
not bin Ladin.

Have you watched the entire video and not just relied on the image that
most conspiracy theory holders refer back to? That image is not
representative of the whole video. It has been edited/sharpened and put
forward as proof. It is a joke. Why don't they post any other stills
from the video? Why do you never see any of these websites posting a
representative selection from the video. Why just this image?

In reference to the ring. How do you know it is gold? Bin Laden has
been noted wearing a ring on several other videos. Are those tapes all
fake too?

TJ

Truth,

What I do know is
what an aeronautical engineer has said. (He's also qualified to fly large
aircralf.) I consider him an expert.


So what about the several tens of people equally qualified that tell you
here that your aeronautical engineer is wrong?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)