North Carolina Aircraft Owners

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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winds in the area
are reported to be in the teens with gusts in the mid 20s at the moment.

Us hairy-chested Midwesterners consider that a mere zephyr. Right, Jay? :-)

Henry

Henry Kisor wrote:

Us hairy-chested Midwesterners consider that a mere zephyr. Right, Jay? :-)

But visibility less than 25 miles is IMC, right?

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot
be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Henry Kisor wrote:

Us hairy-chested Midwesterners consider that a mere zephyr. Right, Jay?
:-)

But visibility less than 25 miles is IMC, right?


Why, George, in such conditions we non-hearing pilots just fly Deaf
IFR--that is, we shut our eyes and hope for the best. :-)

"Maule Driver" wrote in message
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We expect up to 50 knot winds...

I was hear during Fran and "the other one". Fran ran dead center thru the
RDU triangle area. You never forget the roar of the train. It was real
bad
but I don't remember any a/c loses here at 8NC8 (was W65). The "other
one"
that ran thru here to the

That was "Floyd". Who could forget the pictures of pigs on the barn roofs?
Whole houses and coffins floating down the street. I was here for Fran too.
The roar was incredible, but the silence of the eye was downright eerie.

Here in NC, it's usually not the speed of the wind that causes problems,
it's the falling trees/branches. People were killed when trees landed on
their cars while they drove. Whole houses were destroyed when multiple trees
crashed through the roof. A rescue worker was killed yesterday when he drove
into a fallen tree. I was nearly taken out by a fallen tree that came
through my windshield during TS Josephine, missed my forehead by an inch.

So at the airport, as long as there are no trees nearby, I would be more
afraid of flying roof materials and flying debris. A piece of corrugated
steel zipping along at 60 mph could do real damage. Also, low-lying airports
get flooded out. My old airport (5W5) always got flooded out during storms,
so Fran and Floyd really did a number on the planes that were unfortunately
left there. I think even some of the hangared planes had water damage. The
best option is to get your plane the heck out of Dodge.

-Trent
PP-ASEL

I have seen the winds at Lake Havasu (HII) up to 67 mph and all the
planes did fine. Out here in the Apple Valley, Hesperia (APV-L26) area
the wind are in the teens-40s all the time.

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Trent Moorehead wrote:
"Maule Driver" wrote in message
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We expect up to 50 knot winds...

I was hear during Fran and "the other one". Fran ran dead center thru the
RDU triangle area. You never forget the roar of the train. It was real

bad

but I don't remember any a/c loses here at 8NC8 (was W65).

My PA28-180 was tied down at RDU and survived Fran just fine. Ditto for Floyd.

This time (Isabel) the Mooney went into Southern Jet's brand new maintenance
hangar, along with as many other aircraft as could be shoehorned in there. The
sight of all those airplanes crammed in there with a hurricane on the way must
have given the insurance companies shivers.

The "other

one"

that ran thru here to the


That was "Floyd". Who could forget the pictures of pigs on the barn roofs?
Whole houses and coffins floating down the street. I was here for Fran too.
The roar was incredible, but the silence of the eye was downright eerie.

Here in NC, it's usually not the speed of the wind that causes problems,
it's the falling trees/branches. People were killed when trees landed on
their cars while they drove. Whole houses were destroyed when multiple trees
crashed through the roof. A rescue worker was killed yesterday when he drove
into a fallen tree. I was nearly taken out by a fallen tree that came
through my windshield during TS Josephine, missed my forehead by an inch.

Bingo. It's all about the trees.


So at the airport, as long as there are no trees nearby, I would be more
afraid of flying roof materials and flying debris. A piece of corrugated
steel zipping along at 60 mph could do real damage. Also, low-lying airports
get flooded out. My old airport (5W5) always got flooded out during storms,

I remember well the pix of the flooding at 5W5. Really sad to see all those
perfectly good airplanes underwater. I wonder what happened to all of them. Were
they totalled by the insurers? Restored? Scrapped? There were plenty of flood -
damaged cars on the market here in NC after Floyd. I guess there's no record for
airplanes like there is for cars that would warn you that you are buying a flood
damaged airplane.

so Fran and Floyd really did a number on the planes that were unfortunately
left there. I think even some of the hangared planes had water damage. The
best option is to get your plane the heck out of Dodge.

Maybe. I remember the (apocryphal?) story of the guy that flew his 172 up to
Raleigh from Wilmington to get it out of the way of Fran. Unfortunately for him,
Fran pretty much skipped Wilmington and went right over Raleigh. His airplane
was one of 2 or three that were damaged at RDU.

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Dave

"Dave Butler" wrote in message ...
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I remember well the pix of the flooding at 5W5. Really sad to see all those
perfectly good airplanes underwater. I wonder what happened to all of them. Were
they totalled by the insurers?

The government got a lot of fuselages to do crash testing with when Piper got flooded
a couple of decades ago.