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Old July 9th 14, 04:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Has anybody had any experience with rail shipping a glider in trailer? I'm looking at pre-owned gliders and after flying out to inspect the glider and purchasing, having to fly back to the west coast, load up the pickup and drive to New York sure would take the joy out of a glider purchase. I'm just tossing this out, nothing on the radar yet
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Old July 9th 14, 08:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Rent a suitable pickup??
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:45:35 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with rail shipping a glider in trailer? I'm looking at pre-owned gliders and after flying out to inspect the glider and purchasing, having to fly back to the west coast, load up the pickup and drive to New York sure would take the joy out of a glider purchase. I'm just tossing this out, nothing on the radar yet


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Old July 9th 14, 11:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:45:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with rail shipping a glider in trailer? I'm looking at pre-owned gliders and after flying out to inspect the glider and purchasing, having to fly back to the west coast, load up the pickup and drive to New York sure would take the joy out of a glider purchase. I'm just tossing this out, nothing on the radar yet


Don't think about it. I was involved in a NY to CA rail shipment of an ASW-20 some 25 years ago, and it arrived beyond repair due to violent shaking and jarring rail car hook ups.

KS
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Old July 9th 14, 12:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:45:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with rail shipping a glider in trailer? I'm looking at pre-owned gliders and after flying out to inspect the glider and purchasing, having to fly back to the west coast, load up the pickup and drive to New York sure would take the joy out of a glider purchase. I'm just tossing this out, nothing on the radar yet


I checked into that myself a number of years ago to get a trailer shipped from PA to CA. it would have been very expensive and besides the jarring of the virtually un-sprung rail-car, something else must be considered: Humping! No, not what you think - get your mind out of the gutter! Trains are being built by pushing the rail cars over a hump and then directing them onto the various tracks by using gravity. The rail cars then hit each other at a relatively slow speed but still, the impact(s) is considerable. The glider inside the trailer may arrive not the way it was put in there.
Shipping a trailer with your towing vehicle inside a 53' closed trailer may be an option but the trailer should be an air-ride type. Looked into that as well and was quoted over 1$/mile and that was before the large hike in Diesel fuel prices.
Bottom line seems that driving it on the road is still the lowest cost option.

Uli
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Old July 9th 14, 02:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ditto to Uli's and KS's statements about trains. I worked one day in the hump yard located in Hamlett, NC, and witnessed the "violence" train cars endure when they couple to each other. The railroad (CSX) was building a train that had several rail cars loaded with new automobiles. When a slowly-rolling rail car would couple onto a static rail car, the collision was powerful enough to set of the automobile alarms.

Also, they built trains that carried scrap metal in open gondola cars. HEAVY scrap metal lined the tracks in the yard, having been ejected from a moving gondola when it coupled to a stationary car. Impressive!

I would not want my precious cargo go through with that type of brutal handling!

Ray
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Old July 9th 14, 02:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:18:51 AM UTC-4, rlovinggood wrote:
Ditto to Uli's and KS's statements about trains. I worked one day in the hump yard located in Hamlett, NC, and witnessed the "violence" train cars endure when they couple to each other. The railroad (CSX) was building a train that had several rail cars loaded with new automobiles. When a slowly-rolling rail car would couple onto a static rail car, the collision was powerful enough to set of the automobile alarms.



Also, they built trains that carried scrap metal in open gondola cars. HEAVY scrap metal lined the tracks in the yard, having been ejected from a moving gondola when it coupled to a stationary car. Impressive!



I would not want my precious cargo go through with that type of brutal handling!



Ray


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On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:45:35 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with rail shipping a glider in trailer? I'm looking at pre-owned gliders and after flying out to inspect the glider and purchasing, having to fly back to the west coast, load up the pickup and drive to New York sure would take the joy out of a glider purchase. I'm just tossing this out, nothing on the radar yet


There are people who do this sort of thing. Drive gliders across the country I mean, not humping. Well there are people that do that too..

I bought my glider in South Carolina, it was driven to Minden, NV in about 3 days. No damage, just needed the trailer washed. It was paid for by the seller, I think it cost him maybe $3K all in (this was a few years ago). Ask some contest pilots, they have names of people who do this reliably.
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Old July 9th 14, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Just ask Boeing how that's working out for them??? 8-)

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...709-3bls7.html



I know, I know, everyone has seen this!!
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Old July 9th 14, 04:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:13:06 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Just ask Boeing how that's working out for them??? 8-)



http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...709-3bls7.html







I know, I know, everyone has seen this!!


Thanks for all the replies. Renting a tow vehicle might be the best way to get it done.
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Old July 9th 14, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:52:39 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:13:06 AM UTC-7, wrote:

Just ask Boeing how that's working out for them??? 8-)








http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...709-3bls7.html
















I know, I know, everyone has seen this!!




Thanks for all the replies. Renting a tow vehicle might be the best way to get it done.


Some have had good results with
http://www.uship.com/

Or some SSA member with a tow ball going both ways. I'm not available presently but have done this for a number of folks.

Frank Whiteley

 




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