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I want to start my aviation career....at 44 yrs old
(apologies if this shows up in duplicate - I posted earlier but never =
saw this appear) Greetings! I obtained my Private Pilot certificate in Jan, 1990, and enjoyed its = privileges for a couple of years following. (For the rest of the story, = see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in network = engineering, i.e. Cisco router management. This career provided a = comfortable living for my family until late January of this year, when = MCI cut my position (thank you Bernie Ebbers, thank you Scott Sullivan, = you !$&)%$@ weasels). The IT job market here in Columbus, OH, isn't all = that great, and for several compelling reasons, we do not wish to = relocate. So.... I am wondering what kind of idiot would consider starting an aviation = career at 44 years of age. I already know I would have to go through = ground school again, both to learn all the new terminology (Class C = airspace vs. ARSA) and to re-learn all the important little nuggets of = knowledge. Yes, the BFR, that too. Then I want to get my IFR and = Commercial, of course. MAYBE get my CFI, but I'm not sure about that. = I should probably go for my multi-engine, but geez, that could get = expensive reeeeaaaaalllly fast - did I mention I'm unemployed? The question from there is - then what? What kind of demand is there in = this region for newly-minted Commercial pilots, especially if I don't = have a multi rating? All feedback is appreciated!!! Mike T. --=20 When I had Money, I could fly. Then I got Married...then we got a Mortgage...then we had a Munchkin. She has three Ms, I have none. I'm... 2Poor2Fly4Real (remove "nospam" from address for direct replies) |
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"2Poor2Fly4Real" wrote in message om...
(apologies if this shows up in duplicate - I posted earlier but never saw this appear) Greetings! I obtained my Private Pilot certificate in Jan, 1990, and enjoyed its privileges for a couple of years following. (For the rest of the story, see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in network engineering, i.e. Cisco router management. This career provided a comfortable living for my family until late January of this year, when MCI cut my position (thank you Bernie Ebbers, thank you Scott Sullivan, you !$&)%$@ weasels). The IT job market here in Columbus, OH, isn't all that great, and for several compelling reasons, we do not wish to relocate. So.... snip Seems a lot of people (including me) are in the same boat. We always wanted to be a pilot for a career but the lure of high pay in the 90's for the comptuer field made us put that dream on hold. Well, as the bottom fell out for the tech field, we re-thought our life goals and decided that money does not necessarly make one a happy person. I'm also in a high paying computer position that requires very little work and I ONLY work weekdays from 9 till 5. (I have to admit when I look at the janitors in our building that work their butts off everyday for a 1/10 what I make and it makes me feel guilty.) So you wish to switch careers? Well, I'm also in the process of changing but I'm going about it the smart way. I'm keeping my nice job and using that money to pay off any loans and build up a nest egg for when I make the switch. Remember, a low paying IS position will pay more than a flight instructor or entry level pilot job. What a new pilot needs to build a career is flight hours and there is a lot of retired pilots as well as young kids that are used to making 10K - 15K a year that want to fly. As for how easy it will be for you to switch? I like to use the flip-flop example. What if some pilot (that has only flow his entire adult life) asked you how he could learn to be an IS professional? Remember, they have never used a computer and need to learn the inner workings of Windows (all OS's), Unix/Linux, networking, Hardware, Software and still have ~20 - 25 years of work experience with computers. I guess you would see the wealth of knowledge they need to learn and realize that they have a long road ahead. However in this flip-flop example you as a new commercial pilot will only making about ~$800 to at most $1200 a month if your very lucky. (I started my first computer job with NO experience around $30K a year. In 5 years I've easily doubled that.) I don't want to crush your dream. In fact, I think you have a good chance of making it if you, and more importantly your family, is behind your goal. Hell, I'll fly with you. |
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"2Poor2Fly4Real" wrote in message om...
(apologies if this shows up in duplicate - I posted earlier but never saw this appear) Greetings! I obtained my Private Pilot certificate in Jan, 1990, and enjoyed its privileges for a couple of years following. (For the rest of the story, see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in network engineering, i.e. Cisco router management. This career provided a comfortable living for my family until late January of this year, when MCI cut my position (thank you Bernie Ebbers, thank you Scott Sullivan, you !$&)%$@ weasels). The IT job market here in Columbus, OH, isn't all that great, and for several compelling reasons, we do not wish to relocate. So.... I am wondering what kind of idiot would consider starting an aviation career at 44 years of age. I already know I would have to go through ground school again, both to learn all the new terminology (Class C airspace vs. ARSA) and to re-learn all the important little nuggets of knowledge. Yes, the BFR, that too. Then I want to get my IFR and Commercial, of course. MAYBE get my CFI, but I'm not sure about that. I should probably go for my multi-engine, but geez, that could get expensive reeeeaaaaalllly fast - did I mention I'm unemployed? The question from there is - then what? What kind of demand is there in this region for newly-minted Commercial pilots, especially if I don't have a multi rating? All feedback is appreciated!!! Mike T. Mike here is just one route: I was a poor boy who made it to flying for a living. If you love flying, I advise you to TELL the wife you are going to do it for free for a few years. It is do-able no matter what your age. You will be broke for a good while. Put the wife to work, the kid at her Mom's and become a dispatcher or something at your local Flight School. No one's going to hire you as a pilot or insure you without some time, so you are going to have to mooch for a while. Ask instructors that you get to know, if you can just quietly sit in if the paying customer doesn't mind and then ask him. I got through most of the training this way, even though they had to "resign me" from the dispatcher job because I was never at the desk. :-) Many customers became good friends and would let me sit in the back of four seaters to take notes. This made check rides much easier. Forget mult-engine stuff, unless, you want to be gone all of the time from your family. Multi Engine = suitcase. If twins seduce you anyway, as they did me, then tell the owner of the FBO you will fly co-pilot for free and do all the dirty work: Coffie, baggage, cargo, mtc, even emptying the honey-bucket, etc. He'll put you on at minumum wage, but you'll never see the paycheck (just sit there next to the PIC, watch, and shut up. If he feels like it, he'll give you a leg.) I flew a season on a BE-18 this way. If this is too humble for you, then you are simply not willing to "pay your dues" in aviation and need to find a rich relative to pay for all this. Good Luck, pacplyer "to thine own self, be true" - Shakespeare |
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This must be "quit IT and start flying" day....
Today is the first day I've ever looked at this newsgroup, but wouldn't you know, I'm starting to ask myself the same question: how feasible is it to scrap programming and get into an aviation career? I don't have any answers for you, but I'll be watching this space with interest, as I find myself in the same boat (in Cincinnati). I have a friend in Columbus who went to work for Toyota (another IT guy). Dan. "2Poor2Fly4Real" wrote in message m... (apologies if this shows up in duplicate - I posted earlier but never saw this appear) Greetings! I obtained my Private Pilot certificate in Jan, 1990, and enjoyed its privileges for a couple of years following. (For the rest of the story, see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in network engineering, i.e. Cisco router management. This career provided a comfortable living for my family until late January of this year, when MCI cut my position (thank you Bernie Ebbers, thank you Scott Sullivan, you !$&)%$@ weasels). The IT job market here in Columbus, OH, isn't all that great, and for several compelling reasons, we do not wish to relocate. So.... I am wondering what kind of idiot would consider starting an aviation career at 44 years of age. I already know I would have to go through ground school again, both to learn all the new terminology (Class C airspace vs. ARSA) and to re-learn all the important little nuggets of knowledge. Yes, the BFR, that too. Then I want to get my IFR and Commercial, of course. MAYBE get my CFI, but I'm not sure about that. I should probably go for my multi-engine, but geez, that could get expensive reeeeaaaaalllly fast - did I mention I'm unemployed? The question from there is - then what? What kind of demand is there in this region for newly-minted Commercial pilots, especially if I don't have a multi rating? All feedback is appreciated!!! Mike T. -- When I had Money, I could fly. Then I got Married...then we got a Mortgage...then we had a Munchkin. She has three Ms, I have none. I'm... 2Poor2Fly4Real (remove "nospam" from address for direct replies) |
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2Poor2Fly4Real wrote:
... story, see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in ... Let us know how you make out, just the other day I was telling someone that I have the same idea when my current contract runs out. -- Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc. Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX, Run VMS on your PC! www.weaverconsulting.ca |
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To Peter, BykrDan, pacplyer, Mark, EDR, and whoever else responded,
1) My apologies for the delay in responding, I've been cut off from my = newsgroup server for a couple of days. 2) THANK YOU!!! I am still giving this idea some serious = consideration. I've a better feel for the caveats from reading your = opinions, and intend to continue working on this. I'll update the lists = since some of you expressed an interest in same. Mike T. --=20 When I had Money, I could fly. Then I got Married...then we got a Mortgage...then we had a Munchkin. She has three Ms, I have none. I'm... 2Poor2Fly4Real (remove "nospam" from address for direct replies) "Peter Weaver" wrote in message = ... | 2Poor2Fly4Real wrote: | ... | story, see sig block) My career has been in IT, specifically in | ... |=20 | Let us know how you make out, just the other day I was telling someone | that I have the same idea when my current contract runs out. |=20 | --=20 | Peter Weaver | Weaver Consulting Services Inc. | Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX, Run VMS on your PC! | www.weaverconsulting.ca |=20 | |
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Mike, I put this in a reply to George, and I may have forgotten to tell you, also. If you get your Ground Instructor Rating (basically the same test as the PPL), you can deduct your training for further ratings on your income tax. Ground Instructor positions may be easier to come by (a means of getting your proverbial foot in the door), as flight instructors would prefer to fly than teach ground school. |
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If you get your Ground Instructor Rating (basically the same test as the PPL), you can deduct your training for further ratings on your income tax. In the US, you can deduct training to MAINTAIN competency, but you cannot deduct training to ADD ADDITIONAL (marketable) competency. Be careful. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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In article , Teacherjh
wrote: If you get your Ground Instructor Rating (basically the same test as the PPL), you can deduct your training for further ratings on your income tax. In the US, you can deduct training to MAINTAIN competency, but you cannot deduct training to ADD ADDITIONAL (marketable) competency. Be careful. Okay, I guess I should clarify... .... you can deduct your training for further "instructor" ratings... (CFI, CFII, Multi-Instructor) |
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