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China sub stalked U.S. fleet
-- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. "Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... In article , "Glenn Dowdy" wrote: "Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: Like it or not China is, today, a "player" on the world stage. They have not not been expansionistec, externally, since about the 12th Century. Except for the Spratleys, which are roughly equidistant from Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia, but a LONG way from China. Perhaps because it's called the South China Sea they think that everything in it belongs to them? Aren't the Spratleys sitting on top of some nice oil reserves? Yes. And certain nearby countries have a much more valid claim on it than China. I think the Philippines probably need it more in many ways than Big Red. -- Harry Andreas Engineering raconteur Sounds great. America could then solve its oil problems by re-colonising the Philippines 60 years after they left, without having to invent any fantasies about WMDs! -- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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China sub stalked U.S. fleet
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In article , Ricardo wrote: Check on their recent submarine acquisitions, diesel and nuclear. Uh huh. How many? Two? Three? http://www.heritage.org/Research/Asi...fic/wm1001.cfm http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3134-8152r.htm Have a look - and think about it! Well, The Heritage Foundation says the answer is--four. And also accuses the US Navy of ignoring the threat. That's kinda funny, actually, because the submarine service would be jumping all over this if it's true. I have a glossy brochure that they produced over a decade ago warning about all the submarines that the Russians were launching, and that didn't happen. Something that frequently gets lost in the hype about Chinese "force modernization" is that in many cases they are not really increasing their numbers. They're simply replacing badly outdated equipment. Their sub fleet is ancient, so they're modernizing it. Don't believe all the hype. Yeah, they're building weapons, but it's not at a great rate. D |
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China sub stalked U.S. fleet
This is why I am happy to still be serving and attached to a "Carrier
Strike Group". i get to see the real truth. After 25 years nothing has changed, just the players. After returning from the last cruise in August on Lincoln, the status quo has not changed. People not in the know tend to take what CNN, WT and other media org.'s publish as "real". They do not publish "untruths", but rarely ever tell the whole story. That being said, the most truthful comment read here so far is that beyond a "shadow" of a doubt there was at least an LA class on their ass the whole time waiting for an external hatch to open. Those in the know realize there are "joint ops", acts of aggression and acts of war. A sub trailing our fleet and allowing us to practice trailing and getting valuable signature data was a joint op, beneficial to us and was not an act of war or aggression. Opening a door is...this has been going on for 30 years, Chinese and Russian,,enough said. On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:40:13 GMT, "DDAY" wrote: ---------- In article , Ricardo wrote: Check on their recent submarine acquisitions, diesel and nuclear. Uh huh. How many? Two? Three? http://www.heritage.org/Research/Asi...fic/wm1001.cfm http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3134-8152r.htm Have a look - and think about it! Well, The Heritage Foundation says the answer is--four. And also accuses the US Navy of ignoring the threat. That's kinda funny, actually, because the submarine service would be jumping all over this if it's true. I have a glossy brochure that they produced over a decade ago warning about all the submarines that the Russians were launching, and that didn't happen. Something that frequently gets lost in the hype about Chinese "force modernization" is that in many cases they are not really increasing their numbers. They're simply replacing badly outdated equipment. Their sub fleet is ancient, so they're modernizing it. Don't believe all the hype. Yeah, they're building weapons, but it's not at a great rate. D |
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