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Corn ethanol days are numbered
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...googlenews_wsj To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
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, M wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...googlenews_wsj To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. Ehhanol os a corny solution to the fuel supply. -- Remove _'s from email address to talk to me. |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
On May 3, 12:58*pm, M wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew... To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. Its been great business for small engine shops. They can't keep up with all the gooped up carbs from yard equipment that had this stuff run through it. Never leave fuel with ethanol in an engine overnight, always drain the fuel and run it until the carb is clear of fuel. -Robert |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 3, 12:58*pm, M wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew... To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. Its been great business for small engine shops. They can't keep up with all the gooped up carbs from yard equipment that had this stuff run through it. Never leave fuel with ethanol in an engine overnight, always drain the fuel and run it until the carb is clear of fuel. -Robert Dumb question: Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small engines? It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or tug (aviation content)? Or have I just been lucky and don't have this ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area? -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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On Sun, 04 May 2008 07:43:46 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote: It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or tug (aviation content)? Same here. We've had 10% for years, as an MTBE replacement. Or have I just been lucky and don't have this ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area? You probably have it, as CT and NY have at least 10% ethanol. |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
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Bob Noel wrote: In article , "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 3, 12:58*pm, M wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew... To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. Its been great business for small engine shops. They can't keep up with all the gooped up carbs from yard equipment that had this stuff run through it. Never leave fuel with ethanol in an engine overnight, always drain the fuel and run it until the carb is clear of fuel. -Robert Dumb question: Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small engines? It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or tug (aviation content)? Or have I just been lucky and don't have this ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area? It isn't so much the carburetors as the materials in the fuel tanks, although the alcohol can attract water, which will corrode things. It is the solvent effect of the alcohol on plastics and resins used in fuel tanks, for instance. Boaters who have fiberglass fuel tanks are seeing a lot of problems because the alcohol attacks the (usually polyester) resins used to bond and seal the tanks. It produces a goo, which invades and clogs things like filters and carburetor jets. Thank you, environmentalists and Archer-Daniels Midland! -- Remove _'s from email address to talk to me. |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article , Bob Noel wrote: In article , "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 3, 12:58 pm, M wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew... To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality. Its been great business for small engine shops. They can't keep up with all the gooped up carbs from yard equipment that had this stuff run through it. Never leave fuel with ethanol in an engine overnight, always drain the fuel and run it until the carb is clear of fuel. -Robert Dumb question: Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small engines? It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or tug (aviation content)? Or have I just been lucky and don't have this ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area? It isn't so much the carburetors as the materials in the fuel tanks, although the alcohol can attract water, which will corrode things. It is the solvent effect of the alcohol on plastics and resins used in fuel tanks, for instance. Boaters who have fiberglass fuel tanks are seeing a lot of problems because the alcohol attacks the (usually polyester) resins used to bond and seal the tanks. It produces a goo, which invades and clogs things like filters and carburetor jets. Thank you, environmentalists and Archer-Daniels Midland! The REAL problem is that we haven't even begun to see the result of the unbelievable incompetence, corruption, and utter stupidity that has been the result of the actions of the people we have elected to office in the United States. There will be a WHOLE LOT of suffering before things get better, and at this point in time, a fairly viable argument can be made that things indeed, might never be reversed. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ... The REAL problem is that we haven't even begun to see the result of the unbelievable incompetence, corruption, and utter stupidity that has been the result of the actions of the people we have elected to office in the United States. There will be a WHOLE LOT of suffering before things get better, and at this point in time, a fairly viable argument can be made that things indeed, might never be reversed. -- Dudley Henriques George Bernard Shaw said it best, "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." and similarly "We have met the enemy and he is us." Walt Kelly in Pogo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comics) As pilots we are trained to accept responsibility for our actions as PIC, but sadly we do not receive similar quality training as voters or citizens. We tolerate a corrupted and fraudulent democracy and government, and allow ourselves to be distracted by unimportant irrelevancies. It is often said that addicts cannot begin their recovery until they admit that they have hit bottom and this seems to also be the case for citizens who do nothing until they find themselves shouting out the window that "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore." (Howard Beale from the movie Network). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_%28film%29 We say we value freedom above all else, and imagine ourselves as free, but our freedom is limited and totally controlled by authoritarian governments that despite their claimed intentions, are best described as criminal enterprises. IMHO the greatest line in Rock&Roll is Kris Kristofferson's, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson (interestingly, also an Army helicopter pilot, West Point professor, and son of a USAF Major General) Happy landings, |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
On 2008-05-04 07:04:48 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:
The REAL problem is that we haven't even begun to see the result of the unbelievable incompetence, corruption, and utter stupidity that has been the result of the actions of the people we have elected to office in the United States. There will be a WHOLE LOT of suffering before things get better, and at this point in time, a fairly viable argument can be made that things indeed, might never be reversed. Well, sometimes they do wake up and see their own insanity. The double nickel speed limit was finally repealed, though not without a great deal of chest beating. The front seat belt ignition interlock was finally thrown out, too. I do not see a coherent energy policy developing. Politicians say they want us to be less dependent on foreign oil, but they won't let us drill for oil in the US and they tax domestic production higher than imported oil. Politicians say they want us to use less oil, but then throw tantrums when the price of oil goes up. They say they will do something substantive, then toss out gems like the gas tax holiday as if they would have some sort of positive effect. These are the people who want to be President. Scary. You have people who criticize the war in Iraq threatening to use nuclear weapons on Iran. You have Presidential candidates who think that Israel should no longer be protected by our nuclear umbrella, but they are against nuclear proliferation (just what do they think that Israel would do if we were not protecting them?). You have a guy who claims that he did not know what his pastor believed and spoke about despite attending his sermons for more than 20 years and considered him close enough to be a member of the family? Do we really want such a naif negotiating peace treaties with Hamas or nuclear agreements with North Korea? Well, we survived Jimmy Carter (barely). I am not sure we can survive the next idiot. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Corn ethanol days are numbered
On May 4, 4:43*am, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , *"Robert M. Gary" wrote: Dumb question: *Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small engines? *It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or tug (aviation content)? *Or have I just been lucky and don't have this ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area? I'm not sure if your gas in Boston has ethanol or not. In California we are either 10% or 15% ethanol as I recall. Most new mowers in California come with a fuel shutoff valve. The shutdown procedure is to turn off the fuel valve and run the appliance until its out of gas. That ensures that the carb is clear of fuel. In addition, we use stablizers out here. It appears especially important for 2 stroke gas. I use Stabil myself. I also put it in my boat and any car that doesn't use its entire tank in 30 days. -Robet |
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