This may be a dumb question (it sounds like all of the replies to this 
thread have been far more tech-savvy than I) but is the antenna that the xm 
radio system uses specific? Why couldn't you wire their receiver into an 
existing gps antenna (fixed or portable)? 
Are different satellite receivers able to share an antenna? If I understand 
their ad, the premium service uses the same antenna but adds a gps module to 
give specific mapping data. It sounds like this is a sharing arrangement 
since the gps satellites and "rock" and "roll" are obviously distinct. What 
if you already have a gps (portable or panel mounted) Is the premium service 
able to use the signal from that? Frank 
"Jeff Doran"  wrote in message 
  m... 
 Richard, thank you for posting the info on the xmradio weatherworx. I, 
 like many, have been searching for reliable in-cockpit weather 
 solutions. The closest thing to affordibility so far has been anywhere 
 wx from control vision, but even that is a bit pricey, and a rats nest 
 of wires. I use the Palm i705, and you just can't beat it for 
 portability and cost. However, as reliable as it is, even in flight, 
 there are too many times, when I just didnt get a signal or reply when 
 making an inflight weather request from CBAV or TurboWX. 
 For that past month, I have been using a poormans version of the 
 control vision solution... 
 Globalstar SAT phone, $595 list/$495 with rebate/$395 reconditioned 
 Ipaq H3635 pocket pc, on ebay for $100 (or any pocket pc), you can 
 even hook to your i705 and switch back and forth between the wireless 
 palm network and the SAT connection. I prefer the higher resolution 
 and color on the Ipaq for maps. 
 Globalstar data cable, $69; 
 IPAQ Serial Cable (not a hotsync cable, they are not the same) $20; 
 SAT phone is $35/month and .99/minute with 30 included min/month, or 
 $50/month with 120 minutes/month, .75/minute after that. 
 Control Visions deal is $25/month, first 100 mins free, then .99/min 
 after that. 
 A wide range of service plans to fit both budget and use. 
 
 (I do not work for any SAT phone company or aviation product company) 
 
 Data comes down at 9.6Kbps,plus I can make reliable, consistant voice 
 calls in flight. 
 I have not had any problem aquiring and holding a SAT signal in 
 flight, as long as the antenna is held reasonbly close to a window. 
 The glare shield is fine. 
 Admittedly, this is a request/reply setup, and I typically use 
 weathertap.com and flighbrief.com for inflight weather. Not that it is 
 very useful or fast, I can browse the web in flight, including pop3 
 email, etc etc... 
 
 The result is, I am juggling only a PDA, a short cable, and the sat 
 phone. Not Bad. 
 
 Did you ever notice how big and cumbersome even the smallest laptops 
 are when in the cockpit? Screen visibility in sunlight is another 
 concern. 
 
 About the only thing I see that XMradio has to offer is its 
 "broadcast" technology, and (I assume) greater bandwidth...not that 
 these are bad things. 
 
 BTW, I have a Delco Xmradio mounted on the pedestal of my mooney, with 
 the low profile antenna hiding on the glare shield...works great...but 
 I can't listen to Limbaugh. 
 
 
 Jeff Doran 
 Mooney N1159P ACY 
 
  As far as WeatherWorx vs. Palm VIIx, I think the people who will pay 
  $49/month for WeatherWorx and deal with the wiring clutter are people 
who 
  use their airplanes fairly often for practical IFR travel.  I think 
other 
  people will stick with the simplicity, compactness,  and economic 
advantages 
  of the Palm VIIx.  They each have their advantage.  To hook up 
Weatherworx, 
  you need to set up the computer, satellite receiver, and XMRadio box, 
  certainly not something you could/would do on the fly in the air.  The 
  advantage of WeatherWorx is that once this is all set up, it updates 
  automatically during the flight so it is a lot less distracting.   The 
  advantage of the Palm VIIx is that it can just sit in the side pocket of 
  your airplane and you can turn it on basically on a whim if you see 
  unexpected weather.  On top of that, the Palm VIIx runs on just 2 AAA 
  batteries, vs. WeatherWorx which requires either a freshly charged 
  laptop/PDA battery or else a connection to the airplane's cigarette 
lighter 
  power source. 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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