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Travis Marlatte
February 15th 04, 02:25 PM
"Tony Woolner" > wrote in message
...
> Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> Are they very old?
>

Well. Yes. They could be pretty old. They also could be pretty new - or
reconditioned. Either way, they do look old. Kind of an old style, crank the
knobs kind of a "user interface."

Electronically, they are pretty good radios. As with any radio, it is not
necessarily the age of the radio but how it performs. Whether Collins, King,
or Narco, there are some pretty old radios out there that are still
performing like a champ.

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Travis

Roy Smith
February 15th 04, 02:33 PM
In article >,
Tony Woolner > wrote:

> Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> Are they very old?

Collins is a very respected name in radio going back to the 1930's. I
wasn't aware that they ever made anything for the GA market, but if
you've got a Collins in your panel, I guess they must have.

Today, their line is all high-end stuff for jets and aerospace (maybe
broadcast transmitters too?). I suspect anything you could buy from
Collins today would have a price tag higher than the value of your
entire airplane.

Their corporate site is http://www.rockwellcollins.com/

They used to be really big in ham gear. As a result, they've got a bit
of a folk following. A few general interest Collins history sites:

http://www.wa3key.com/collins.html
http://www.collinsra.com/
http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/collins.htm

Dave Stadt
February 15th 04, 02:57 PM
"Tony Woolner" > wrote in message
...
> Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> Are they very old?


It doesn't get any better than Collins. I would take a 25 year old Collins
over a brand new NARCO in a heartbeat. They have been around forever are
top of the line in corporate and commercial jets.

Orval Fairbairn
February 15th 04, 09:16 PM
In article >,
"Dave Stadt" > wrote:

> "Tony Woolner" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> > Are they very old?
>
>
> It doesn't get any better than Collins. I would take a 25 year old Collins
> over a brand new NARCO in a heartbeat. They have been around forever are
> top of the line in corporate and commercial jets.
>
>

I have had a Collins Micro-Line in my plane since 1978. Between the nav
and comm, I think that it has seen the shop three or four times.

Collins started the MicroLine about 1977 or 78 -- they are good radios,
but with only one flip/flop storage channel.

Tony Woolner
February 16th 04, 01:50 AM
Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
Are they very old?

John Mireley
February 16th 04, 01:18 PM
Roy Smith wrote:

> In article >,
> Tony Woolner > wrote:
>
>
>>Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
>>Are they very old?
>
>
> Collins is a very respected name in radio going back to the 1930's. I
> wasn't aware that they ever made anything for the GA market, but if
> you've got a Collins in your panel, I guess they must have.
>

Here is a picture of a Collins in a Saratoga.

http://mireley.net/Olds_Forge_Flyers/01040007.JPG

Mike Z.
February 16th 04, 03:18 PM
Can't speak to the age. The ones in my 172 were moved out of a 310. The previous owner thought enough of them in the 310 to pay to
have them moved into the Skyhawk 4 years ago.

I like them fine. They are a little heavy and my sidetone is too high. Makes it hard to balance with the intercom but that is not
the radios fault. I am just too lazy to take it in for such a piddley thing.

Mike Z

"Tony Woolner" > wrote in message ...
> Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> Are they very old?
>

Jeff
February 17th 04, 06:31 AM
I have collins stuff in my Arrow, great radio.
http://www.turboarrow3.com/newplane/clouds/image5.html



Tony Woolner wrote:

> Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
> Are they very old?

Alan Bloom
February 17th 04, 11:26 PM
Have a Collins Nav/Com in my Skylane along with a King 155. Although
it doesn't have the "flip-flop" freg, the Collins radio works fine but
I really like a NAV feature not found on the King. You can switch it
to show a digital read-out of the "TO" or "FROM" radial. Very
convenient tracking complement to the OBS.

Dogs can fly.
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:50:51 -0500, Tony Woolner >
wrote:

>Saw a Warrior with a Collins radio in it. Never saw this radio before.
>Are they very old?

Paul Sengupta
February 18th 04, 03:41 AM
My Narco does that.

Paul

"Alan Bloom" > wrote in message
s.com...
>
> Have a Collins Nav/Com in my Skylane along with a King 155. Although
> it doesn't have the "flip-flop" freg, the Collins radio works fine but
> I really like a NAV feature not found on the King. You can switch it
> to show a digital read-out of the "TO" or "FROM" radial. Very
> convenient tracking complement to the OBS.

Jay Smith
February 19th 04, 01:50 AM
Alan Bloom wrote:
> Have a Collins Nav/Com in my Skylane along with a King 155. Although
> it doesn't have the "flip-flop" freg, the Collins radio works fine but
> I really like a NAV feature not found on the King. You can switch it
> to show a digital read-out of the "TO" or "FROM" radial. Very
> convenient tracking complement to the OBS.

I believe the KX155 does that also. I haven't read the manual for
several months, but I thought I saw it in there.

Aaron Coolidge
February 19th 04, 04:22 AM
Jay Smith > wrote:
: Alan Bloom wrote:
:> Have a Collins Nav/Com in my Skylane along with a King 155. Although
:> it doesn't have the "flip-flop" freg, the Collins radio works fine but
:> I really like a NAV feature not found on the King. You can switch it
:> to show a digital read-out of the "TO" or "FROM" radial. Very
:> convenient tracking complement to the OBS.

: I believe the KX155 does that also. I haven't read the manual for
: several months, but I thought I saw it in there.

You're thinking of the KX-165 (one-sixty-five). Pull out the nav freq
inner knob, and it shows the radial you're on. Do this on a KX-155 and it
shows "---".
--
Aaron Coolidge (N9376J)

Ron Natalie
February 19th 04, 02:29 PM
"Jay Smith" > wrote in message ...

> I believe the KX155 does that also. I haven't read the manual for
> several months, but I thought I saw it in there.
>
The original KX155's don't. The KX165 (essentially the same radio
but works with resolvers for HSI's), does. The new KX155A's probably
do as well.

There's an after market mod for the older KX155 to add this feature.

February 19th 04, 04:43 PM
Ron Natalie > wrote:

: "Jay Smith" > wrote in message ...

:> I believe the KX155 does that also. I haven't read the manual for
:> several months, but I thought I saw it in there.
:>
: The original KX155's don't. The KX165 (essentially the same radio
: but works with resolvers for HSI's), does. The new KX155A's probably
: do as well.


Actually, the KX-165 has an internal converter that the KX-155 does not.
That's why it actually knows what radial you're on. It'll work with the same head as
a KNS-80 (KI-206 or KNI-520, etc) that doesn't have an internal converter. That's one
thing I've never understood... most indicator heads (203/204/208/209) have an internal
converter (read: more parts) but cost less than the simpler heads (206) that just have
needle movements. The 'NAV' on most nav radios are simply RF demodulators. The
L/R/T/F/OBS is all done within the head.

: There's an after market mod for the older KX155 to add this feature.

Nifty... Question is does it use the same PCB as the 165 and can thus have an
internal converter added?

-Cory

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Ron Natalie
February 19th 04, 05:07 PM
> wrote in message ...

I looked it up and yes, the 155A does have the VOR radial display (I thought it did).
>
> : There's an after market mod for the older KX155 to add this feature.
>
> Nifty... Question is does it use the same PCB as the 165 and can thus have an
> internal converter added?
>
I believe it's just a wart on the 155 board. I can't seem to dig up the thing on the web,
but they used to advertise quite regularly in TAP.

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