.... necessarily have Autopilot?

Ramapriya

No

"Ramapriya" > wrote in message
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> ... necessarily have Autopilot?
>
> Ramapriya
>
>

Never flew one that did.
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
I'd imagine.
And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

Ramapriya



Gene Seibel wrote:
> Never flew one that did.
> --
> Gene Seibel
> Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
> Because I fly, I envy no one.

"Ramapriya" > wrote in message
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> ... necessarily have Autopilot?

No. An autopilot is an expensive luxury on small light planes.

"Ramapriya" > wrote in message
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> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.
> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

Lavatories are located at each end of the flight. There is no room to stand
up or walk around in most small planes. They are even smaller than the
interiors of most compact cars.

Ramapriya,

> To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.
>

You can do both. Not for THAT long, but for a minute or so under most
circumstances. Legs you cen move freely for hours.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Its called an external catheter an if you cannot hold it for 3 hours you may
need to go see a Urologist to see whats wrong.




"Ramapriya" > wrote in message
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> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.
> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)
>
> Ramapriya
>
>
>
> Gene Seibel wrote:
> > Never flew one that did.
> > --
> > Gene Seibel
> > Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
> > Because I fly, I envy no one.
>

Ramapriya wrote:
> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being
able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.
> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

It's not too difficult. In the summer, I usually make a few 8 hr.
flights up north. Two legs of 3.5 to 4 hours. If the plane is
properly trimmed, I can fly with a very light touch on the yoke, or
even using my knee. Leg stretching is easy, as rudder is not usually
required in cruise. The loo situation is solved by careful planning
of fluid intake.

My plane has an autopilot (single axis wing-leveler) that has been
inoperative since I bought the plane over 10 yrs. ago. I haven't seen
the need to spend the money to have it fixed. It's primary value is
amusement. It wants to roll hard right every time it's turned on.
Occasionally, I'll secretly turn it on while another pilot is flying
from the right seat. The look on their faces is priceless :-)
John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Ramapriya wrote:

> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.

Yes, it's extremely painful, tiresome and boring. I'd strongly advise
against learning to fly. (Make a couple of children instead, much more
fun and not more expensive.)

Stefan

No, there is something else that helps the plane fly straight called
"trim". We trim the plane so that with hands off (and no turb) the
plane flys straight. Its not as good as an autopilot because it will
drift but it allows you to relax your hands.

-Robert

that's what trim is for.

BT

"Ramapriya" > wrote in message
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> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.
> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)
>
> Ramapriya
>
>
>
> Gene Seibel wrote:
>> Never flew one that did.
>> --
>> Gene Seibel
>> Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
>> Because I fly, I envy no one.
>

Ramapriya wrote:

> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.

Does your car have an auto-pilot? Do you manage to drive for 3 hours?
Properly trimmed the plane shouldn't require much control input in
steady flight.

> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

What loo?

"Ramapriya" > writes:

> [... another basic question ...]

Perhaps members of the newsgroup can toss some dollars together and
air-mail an introductory flight-training book or two to this curious
but apparently library-less poster, so as to save him time in asking a
thousand individual questions. Or perhaps a good set of URLs he can
spend time reading instead of writing on Usenet?

- FChE

Ramapriya wrote:
> Wow, but isn't that a pain in, say, a 3-hour flight? To not being
able
> to let go of the control column and stretch the legs can be tiresome,
> I'd imagine.

Think of it as not much different from driving a car down a highway for
3 hours. You don't have to grasp the controls with clenched fingers,
you know :) A little nudge here and there is all, and you can move
your legs around too.

> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

Same as with a car. You find someplace to stop. Otherwise, use a
bottle :)

Kev

Ramapriya wrote:

> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

Why, you just turn roll to inverted, so as not to mess the floor or
anything, and let 'er rip!

:-)

-Dave Russell
8KCAB / N2 S-3

On 7 Jan 2005 05:57:05 -0800, "Ramapriya" > wrote:

>... necessarily have Autopilot?

Mine doesn't.

It doesn't have a transponder, directional gyro, turn indicator, or
vertical speed indicator either.

Nor a starter, for that matter :)


-- all the best, Dan Ford

email (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com
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the blog: www.danford.net

On 7 Jan 2005 07:32:46 -0800, "Ramapriya" > wrote:

>And what if you've to go to the loo? :)

A friend of mine got caught short in the Cub, which he likes to fly
because, as he says, its endurance is about the same as his: two
hours.

He peed in the gas sample tube, which holds what, two ounces? He
thought it was quite funny, but I have never felt the same about the
gas sampler since.


-- all the best, Dan Ford

email (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com
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the blog: www.danford.net

>> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)
>
> Same as with a car. You find someplace to stop.
> Otherwise, use a bottle :)
>
> Kev

Uh... about that bottle... don't ever forget to empty it during a stop and
decide to pour it out of the window at the run-up area prior to the next
t/o... bad for the side of the plane! Not to mention the side of your face
when some gets blown back in by the prop! A friend of mine did that once!
LOL!

-Frank

I think you really need to start taking flight lessons. I am willing to
offer you a free lesson if it will put all your questions to rest :-)



"Ramapriya" > wrote in news:1105106225.672103.166460
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> ... necessarily have Autopilot?
>
> Ramapriya
>
>

Naw, I guess I've had it now. Like I've said earlier, flying has always
been a very great curiosity.

The varying degrees of irritation showed by a few (I've made a few
great friends amongst the ones here too, btw) at my questions has led
to things far more serious and ludicrous. I've been told that the FBI
has been alerted and I'll likely be under surveillance!! The FBI thing
is no intimidation to me since I've nothing to hide, but that's besides
the point.

All you guys had to do was completely ignore a few Qs of mine and I'd
have gone, which I will now anyways.

Thanks for your time thus far.

Cheers,

Ramapriya




Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> I think you really need to start taking flight lessons. I am willing
to
> offer you a free lesson if it will put all your questions to rest :-)

I offered you a free flight lesson. Why are you getting upset over that??


"Ramapriya" > wrote in news:1105251409.421417.127170
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Naw, I guess I've had it now. Like I've said earlier, flying has always
> been a very great curiosity.
>
> The varying degrees of irritation showed by a few (I've made a few
> great friends amongst the ones here too, btw) at my questions has led
> to things far more serious and ludicrous. I've been told that the FBI
> has been alerted and I'll likely be under surveillance!! The FBI thing
> is no intimidation to me since I've nothing to hide, but that's besides
> the point.
>
> All you guys had to do was completely ignore a few Qs of mine and I'd
> have gone, which I will now anyways.
>
> Thanks for your time thus far.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ramapriya
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Sarangan wrote:
>> I think you really need to start taking flight lessons. I am willing
> to
>> offer you a free lesson if it will put all your questions to rest :-)
>

Hey Ramapriya,
I've never responded to your posts, but maybe this will help. Go
to the site: groups.google.com, and type in "rec.aviation.student" or
"rec.aviation.piloting". Use the "Search This Group" feature and just
put in a few keywords, examples: "landing crosswinds", or "autopilot",
etc... This is what I did for a *long* time before I started posting.
There are over 10 years of posts on these groups (probably more like
15-20 years) and people have discussed the basics a great many times.
If you do a general google search for aviation topics, there are
tons of sites. Instead of plugging my own site, I'll refer you to the
absolutely *wonderful* site by Gene Whitt:
http://www.whittsflying.com/. He discusses soo many topics you could
(and I did!) spend weeks just reading & thinking about his
stories/lessons/advice.
All this said, I think it's a general convention to use the most
relevant newsgroup for posts. rec.aviation.student is great, and I
recommend you read it daily - that's what I did for a month or two
before I took my first flight lesson. It is also a more appropriate
group to ask very basic questions about aircraft, aviation, etc. I've
found that rec.aviation.piloting is kind of the "next step up" in terms
of knowledge/advice. There is more discussion of advanced topics here
(IFR, long XCs, PIREPs, etc).
Good luck - and I really do recommend that you go try a discovery
flight somewhere. It's only $50-$100 (in the US at least) and really
worth it.
Blue Skies,
Noah

Ramapriya,

> I've been told that the FBI
> has been alerted and I'll likely be under surveillance!!
>

You've got to be kidding! Right from "Land of the Free" to "Land of the
Paranoid". Very sad!

As you know, this is Usenet, which presents a wild mix of, well,
characters. What you describe is hideous, though.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

>> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)
>
>What loo?

Skip to it!

In article >,
says...
> >> And what if you've to go to the loo? :)
> >
> >What loo?
>
> Skip to it!
>
Good One!
Dave