Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3 rd
engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a 747,
anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine mebe
regards Frank

probably


"jfp" > wrote in message
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| Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a
777 with a 3 rd
| engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5
th on a 747,
| anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport
spare engine mebe
| regards Frank
|
|

Why wouldn't one simply transport a "spare" in the cargo hold?

Marc


"jfp" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3 rd
> engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a 747,
> anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine mebe
> regards Frank
>
>

Inside is paying cargo.
"Marc CYBW" > wrote
in message news:bUnnf.159747$yS6.141427@clgrps12...
| Why wouldn't one simply transport a "spare" in the cargo
hold?
|
| Marc
|
|
| "jfp" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a
777 with a 3 rd
| > engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a
5 th on a 747,
| > anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport
spare engine mebe
| > regards Frank
| >
| >
|
|

AOG at remote locations need engine changes, an engine can
be ferried externally.
http://www.simviation.com/gallery/76G08%20GAWNJqm%20B747%20engine%20ferry%20EGPK.jpg


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
|
| "jfp" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a
777 with a 3 rd
| > engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a
5 th on a 747,
| > anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport
spare engine mebe
| > regards Frank
|
| I've gotta wonder what you have been smoking. Have any
factual cites for
| either of these claims?
| --
| Jim in NC
|

Morgans wrote:

> I've gotta wonder what you have been smoking. Have any factual cites for
> either of these claims?

Sure just google for "747 spare engine". It mounts just inboard of the
#2 engine. I've got photos of the spare engine mount hard points....if
I had an easy place to post them I would.

A picture is worth a thousands words? You can Google, can't
you?


"Morgans" > wrote in message
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|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:eZnnf.28525$QW2.965@dukeread08...
| > AOG at remote locations need engine changes, an engine
can
| > be ferried externally.
| >
|
http://www.simviation.com/gallery/76G08%20GAWNJqm%20B747%20engine%20ferry%20EGPK.jpg
|
| A picture? No write up?
| --
| Jim in NC
|

"jfp" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3 rd
> engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a 747,
> anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine mebe
> regards Frank

I've gotta wonder what you have been smoking. Have any factual cites for
either of these claims?
--
Jim in NC

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:eZnnf.28525$QW2.965@dukeread08...
> AOG at remote locations need engine changes, an engine can
> be ferried externally.
>
http://www.simviation.com/gallery/76G08%20GAWNJqm%20B747%20engine%20ferry%20EGPK.jpg

A picture? No write up?
--
Jim in NC

"Ron Natalie" > wrote
>
> Sure just google for "747 spare engine". It mounts just inboard of the
> #2 engine. I've got photos of the spare engine mount hard points....if
> I had an easy place to post them I would.

That is the strangest damn thing I have ever seen. Do these hard points
exist on all 747's, or just a few for special use?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
> "Ron Natalie" > wrote
>> Sure just google for "747 spare engine". It mounts just inboard of the
>> #2 engine. I've got photos of the spare engine mount hard points....if
>> I had an easy place to post them I would.
>
> That is the strangest damn thing I have ever seen. Do these hard points
> exist on all 747's, or just a few for special use?

I would suspect all of them. All of the ones I've been close enough
to look at have had them. I suspect more have it than not (maybe some
of the shorthaul domestic Japanese variants don't).

"Marc CYBW" > posted the exciting
message news:bUnnf.159747$yS6.141427@clgrps12:

> Why wouldn't one simply transport a "spare" in the cargo hold?
>
> Marc
>
>
> "jfp" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3 rd
>> engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a 747,
>> anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine mebe
>> regards Frank
>>
>>
>
>

Engine is a bit big for the cargo hold on a passenger plane.

Jim you never seen a 5 th engine carried on a 747 i have mind you i worked
at Heathrow for 14 years before 77 s were around Frank
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jfp" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3 rd
> > engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a 747,
> > anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine mebe
> > regards Frank
>
> I've gotta wonder what you have been smoking. Have any factual cites for
> either of these claims?
> --
> Jim in NC
>

OK 747 s but what about 777 my original question, and i am definately not on
anything only tea regards Frank


"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Morgans wrote:
> > "Ron Natalie" > wrote
> >> Sure just google for "747 spare engine". It mounts just inboard of
the
> >> #2 engine. I've got photos of the spare engine mount hard
points....if
> >> I had an easy place to post them I would.
> >
> > That is the strangest damn thing I have ever seen. Do these hard points
> > exist on all 747's, or just a few for special use?
>
> I would suspect all of them. All of the ones I've been close enough
> to look at have had them. I suspect more have it than not (maybe some
> of the shorthaul domestic Japanese variants don't).

Sorry 777 s
"jfp" > wrote in message
...
> Jim you never seen a 5 th engine carried on a 747 i have mind you i worked
> at Heathrow for 14 years before 77 s were around Frank
> "Morgans" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "jfp" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi all last week at antigua airport i am sure i saw a 777 with a 3
rd
> > > engine on the wing on a BWIA i know they used to carry a 5 th on a
747,
> > > anyone know if this is standard on a 777 to transport spare engine
mebe
> > > regards Frank
> >
> > I've gotta wonder what you have been smoking. Have any factual cites
for
> > either of these claims?
> > --
> > Jim in NC
> >
>
>

I wonder if the cargo area has the structural strength to carry a heavy
engine. Actual cargo planes have stronger floors, I"d bet the floor of
the cargo area of a pax plane is pretty wimpy for weight.

-Robert

One has to be able to get the engine into the cargo hold of a passenger
jet before worrying about whether the floor can hold the weight.

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I wonder if the cargo area has the structural strength to carry a heavy
> engine. Actual cargo planes have stronger floors, I"d bet the floor of
> the cargo area of a pax plane is pretty wimpy for weight.
>
> -Robert
>

"jfp" > wrote in message
...
> OK 747 s but what about 777 my original question, and i am definately not
on
> anything only tea regards Frank

Sorry about that crack. I had never heard of anything like that, and to
success of others, they produced pictures showing the practice.

I still think it is weird.
--
Jim in NC

>
>I would suspect all of them. All of the ones I've been close enough
>to look at have had them. I suspect more have it than not (maybe some
>of the shorthaul domestic Japanese variants don't).

It was an option from Boeing and not many took it. I believe Qantas
was the first airline to have that capability on the 747.

Don Hammer > wrote
> It was an option from Boeing and not many took it. I believe Qantas
> was the first airline to have that capability on the 747.

It was on all of the first 30 B-747s from Boeing that PanAm bought.
And....our B-707s came with the fifth pod capability.
Bob Moore

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:17:02 GMT, Bob Moore >
wrote:


>It was on all of the first 30 B-747s from Boeing that PanAm bought.
>And....our B-707s came with the fifth pod capability.
>Bob Moore

Ah yes, I remember the PanAm airplanes. They wanted a way to get
engines to all the strange places in the Pacific they visited.

Who is our? Quantas? I used to fly a corporate 707-123B (ex AA)
without those provisions. If Quantas, was that the 138's, 338's, or
both?

Don

Don Hammer > wrote
>>It was on all of the first 30 B-747s from Boeing that PanAm bought.
>>And....our B-707s came with the fifth pod capability.
>>Bob Moore
>
> Ah yes, I remember the PanAm airplanes. They wanted a way to get
> engines to all the strange places in the Pacific they visited.
>
> Who is our? Quantas? I used to fly a corporate 707-123B (ex AA)
> without those provisions. If Quantas, was that the 138's, 338's, or
> both?

Our.....PanAm, from which, I am retired. 121s and 321s.

Bob Moore